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bbqsquirrel
Old 03-06-2007, 04:43 PM     Post subject: Line checks Part 2 #1 (permalink)  
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Hands taken from my long original post.

Hand 6. Questionable chase?

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MP ($69.55)
Button ($24.45)
Hero ($23.70)
BB ($14.85)
UTG ($19.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 7.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) 5, 4, K (3 players)
Hero bets $2, BB folds, MP raises to $5, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($13) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, MP calls $6.75.

River: ($26.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $10.95 (All-In), MP calls $10.95.

Final Pot: $48.40

Hand 7. All in excessive (given enormous stack sizes)?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($46.15)
SB ($17.65)
BB ($22.15)
UTG ($49.10)
MP ($25.55)
Hero ($55.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 6.
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 3 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) 9, 3, J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($2.35) A (2 players)
UTG bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, UTG raises to $7, Hero raises to $54.35, UTG calls $41.10 (All-In).

River: ($104.80) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $104.80

8. Lay this down with a dynamite read (which I didn't have)?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Hero ($91.80)
Button ($26.85)
SB ($25.85)
BB ($25.10)
UTG ($26.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, K.
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) T, 7, Q (4 players)
SB bets $0.25, BB folds, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, SB folds.

Turn: ($3.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, Button raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($13.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $20.6 (All-In), Hero calls $20.60.

Final Pot: $54.45

Hand 9. Flopped ass-end straight and then stuff happened.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($23.75)
CO ($4.40)
Button ($27.70)
SB ($17.60)
Hero ($36.70)
UTG ($23.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 6.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1) 7, 9, 8 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP folds, Button calls $1, SB folds.

Turn: ($3) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1, Hero raises to $4.5, Button calls $3.50.

River: ($12) T (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $21.95 (All-In), Hero calls $21.95.

Final Pot: $55.90

Hand 10. I improved my hand, and then opponent went crazy. Is this a fold or a call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

BB ($5.05)
UTG ($60.75)
MP ($30.50)
CO ($25)
Hero ($26.75)
SB ($4.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, A.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) J, T, 5 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.75, BB folds, UTG calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75.

Turn: ($4.25) T (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2.5, Hero raises to $7, SB folds, UTG folds, CO raises to $24, Hero calls $17.

River: ($52.25) 2 (2 players)

Final Pot: $52.25
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Take this with a pinch of salt since this is my first line check response, and hence is more for my benefit than yours.

Hand 6. Fold pre-flop I think in the long run playing hand like this OOP is a leak.
Hand 7. I don't understand why if he has a flush draw he doesn't bet the flop. (Does he C-bet much OOP?)
Hand 8. Raise Pre-flop. I think it's easier then on later streets.
Hand 9. Raise turn more. Could be pushing after your weak river check.
Hand 10. Raise to 1.50 pre and you will have a clearer picture I suspect you're beat here.
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:15 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 My thoughts:

6. weird pf call on the sb, otherwise I like it a lot

7. If I didn't shove, it would only be because I thought villain was stupid enough to not realize my raise to $21 means I'm playing for stacks regardless.

8. I think K9s is strong enough to raise preflop. If you wanna open limp, reserve it for hands like 34s and low pps. Apart from that you're playing it very passively for what I would've considered to be the best hand.. if you're beat, meh, cooler, but I'd have tried to get the money in faster somewhere

9. I fold river.. this sort of thing is a bluff like never.. if he wanted to bluff he'd bet something less imo, now he saw you show some strength (turn raise) so he wants to get his value. It's hard to fathom actual hands that make a bigger straight that got there this way though, but at this level I'm mainly looking at their lines.

10. I raise ATo preflop from all positions.. not sure if that's good actually lol.. flop I don't bet 2nd pair into a pack of 5 players.. turn as played I like, call.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:30 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 6. Villain couldn't fold his set of Kings and he had some unkind words for me afterwards. I don't know whether that's justified. I chased with slightly off pot odds but my implied odds more than compensated for it.

Hand 7. Villain had KJc, I had an underflush and I was massively f-ed. Biggest ever lost pot for me (in terms of BBs). I was hoping for a slowly-played set or TP-turned 2-pairs.

Hand 8. At micro I like to open limp a variety of hands and try to outwit opponents postflop. Here villain was trying to represent the flush himself and was bluffing with black unsuited KJ (busted straight draw). Good thinking for him -- I would have folded anything except a flush here.

Hand 9. I picked off another huge bluff here (villain had KT). Villain taking a stab on turn and calling my c/r usually means a good draw, making him holding a T much more likely than a J. If he had JT then nh.

Hand 10. Villain had QT and I had him outkicked. He must be putting me on a Jack, and he's telling the world he could beat any J.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:02 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by jackvance
My thoughts:

8. I think K9s is strong enough to raise preflop. If you wanna open limp, reserve it for hands like 34s and low pps. Apart from that you're playing it very passively for what I would've considered to be the best hand.. if you're beat, meh, cooler, but I'd have tried to get the money in faster somewhere

10. I raise ATo preflop from all positions.. not sure if that's good actually lol.. flop I don't bet 2nd pair into a pack of 5 players.. turn as played I like, call.
8. I'm not open-raising K9s anywhere other than the button certain exceptions of course. I think this becomes a major leak as you move up stakes. I agree with the rest of your statment.

10. Eh...this is marginal too I think. AT plays best the closer to the button you open with it. It's too easily dominated as everyone and their momma is sticking it all in with any A-paint on a A high board. I'm not betting the flop either. Turn is good for us as it puts another flush draw on the board which means...chasers :P ! Raise the turn to 9, obv call the push.
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