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Old 02-12-2010, 07:44 PM     Post subject: Line check in pos, multiway 3-bet pot #1 (permalink)  
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 3-bettor is a taggy player who s been 3-betting pretty light from the blinds. cold-caller is a big fish who seems to play poker by rolling a 3-sided die, (50/4 or something pre)

Seat 2: HERO (€464.40)
Seat 5: cicci0911 (€259.40)
Seat 4: cmpjo05 (€412.00)
Seat 1: ShockTop (€437.00)
Seat 3: Redeeeem (€976.10)
cicci0911 posts the big blind of €4.00
cmpjo05 posts the small blind of €2.00
Redeeeem is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO
ShockTop folds
HERO raises €14.00
Redeeeem folds
cmpjo05 raises €44.00
cicci0911 calls €44.00
HERO calls €44.00
*** FLOP ***
cmpjo05 checks
cicci0911 bets €24.00
HERO calls €24.00
cmpjo05 calls €24.00
*** TURN ***
cmpjo05 checks
cicci0911 checks
HERO bets €80.00
cmpjo05 folds
cicci0911 calls €80.00
*** RIVER ***
cicci0911 checks
HERO checks
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I fold to his 3bet the first time around, I think he´s 3betting rather a wider value range and rarely bluffing much with the fish overcalling him in position a lot and you not folding much when the fish enters the pot.

dont really know about postflop, flop seems a pure pot odds call, turn depends on BBs habits, but at lower stakes this guy doesnt fold much in this situation
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:17 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:53 AM #4 (permalink)  
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id check the turn because i wouldnt expect them to fold tx+
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 either check turn or fire this river

i prefer the more aggressive approach
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 Of course he doesn't fold Tx. The turn bet is for the values of the fishes. I would also bet river small and call any raise.
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Of course he doesn't fold Tx. The turn bet is for the values of the fishes. I would also bet river small and call any raise.
what are the rules to this new form of poker?
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Of course he doesn't fold Tx. The turn bet is for the values of the fishes. I would also bet river small and call any raise.
what are the rules to this new form of poker?
Complicated.
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yes hes calling with a big heart but thats a small part of his range after flop action i thnk
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:34 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 pocketfours' reply is interesting. i was being sweated by a really strong player and was about to check the turn when he said "hmmm I think I d bet"
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:06 PM #11 (permalink)  
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either check turn or fire this river

i prefer the more aggressive approach
I agree with this if the player c/c'ing turn was a reg or reasonable player. The idea of bet/betting vs a whale doesn't seem to appealing to me.
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 come on, whales are scared of flushes!!
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:01 PM #13 (permalink)  
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 Surely the turn is an easy value bet here? The original 3 better never plays a better hand than yours this way, but he will have equity against your hand here, which you would like him to fold. When fish bets so small on the flop and checks the turn, imo you have more than enough equity vs his c/c range here, too bet.
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 fwiw fish mucked

if he had had more left on the river i would ve bluffshoved
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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