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Old 03-05-2007, 07:59 PM     Post subject: line check with KQo in position #1 (permalink)  
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 Villian is a 27/15 over a 60 sample, AF 5 (not like that means anything). Haven't noticed any of his hands.

PokerStars Game #8753277621: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/05 - 15:50:57 (ET)
Table 'Ellicott II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Danymite76 ($106.50 in chips)
Seat 3: stalleA ($153.85 in chips)
Seat 4: onetimer444 ($98.25 in chips)
Seat 5: IMSUPERCREAL ($185.80 in chips)
Seat 6: adamw005 ($105.55 in chips)
adamw005: posts small blind $0.50
Danymite76: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IMSUPERCREAL [Qc Kd]
stalleA: calls $1
onetimer444: folds
IMSUPERCREAL: raises $3 to $4
adamw005: folds
Danymite76: calls $3
stalleA: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8s 9h]
Danymite76: bets $8
stalleA: folds
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $8
*** TURN *** [Qs 8s 9h] [3d]
Danymite76: bets $20 (after he tanks a bit)
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8s 9h 3d] [7h]
Danymite76: bets $25 (after he tanks a bit)
CardPlayer78 joins the table at seat #2
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $25
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:27 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Does anyone ever raise the flop in spots like these, by an amount less than we think villain will lead on the turn?

ie: villain leads 8, we raise to 18, they call. Check through turn (assuming they check to us) and we get to river for a total of 18.

versus: call 8, and then call 20 which costs us 28.

Just curious if this kind of logic is a good reason in favor of raising somewhat marginal hands in position, sometimes.
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Does anyone ever raise the flop in spots like these, by an amount less than we think villain will lead on the turn?

ie: villain leads 8, we raise to 18, they call. Check through turn (assuming they check to us) and we get to river for a total of 18.

versus: call 8, and then call 20 which costs us 28.

Just curious if this kind of logic is a good reason in favor of raising somewhat marginal hands in position, sometimes.
I don't raise the flop because all worse hands are folding, or most of them.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:10 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I probably raise more preflop.

I definitely raise flop and expect to be paid off by worse almost always- folding to a push obviously.

I would almost always check behind on turn and depending on villain induce bluff//fold

The only reason I would take a line as passive as yours is if I put villain on complete air, and then I still probably wouldn't. Sauce.
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 I hate these situations and have been trying to figure out the best line against possible:

A. Thinking TAGG opponents
B. Thinking LAGG opponents
C. Donks

Here is what I am thinking
A. We call the flop and lead the turn to not allow a TAGG to check through
B. We c/c all streets letting this player do the betting for us.
C. We c/r the flop and try to get as much money in as possible

These are spots I am trying to avoid but I hate c/r the flop against a good player and getting called. Too nitty I guess.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:37 PM #9 (permalink)  
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