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silu73
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09-05-2006, 06:42 AM
Post subject: Line check - First stats of a beginner
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Full House
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Enclosed are my first stats of playing 6-max ring games. I only play Poker for 4 months and seriously for about 2 months. I am still a newbie in ring games (made all my bankroll with SNG’s) and would appreciate any feedback from you guys. I started over the last few days to 3-table the $10NL 6-max tables on Full Tilt and Poker Stars. Every foray into $25NL was met with bad beats and donkish play on my behalf. During the downswing my bankroll has dropped under $500 hence me going back to the $10 tables.
The biggest mistakes I have made so far were:
1) Going broke with TPTK
2) Treating high PP (TT-AA) as if there were the nuts even post flop
3) Bleeding money out of the blinds
4) Not being able to make the tough lay down
I am working hard on my game to try to minimize mistakes from my game.
It’s a small sample size but can you see any glaring leaks?
Thanking you in advance for your time.
  
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martindcx1e
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swing much?
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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benny999
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it's a lot easier to see leaks in hand histories, since I don't know if your slow playing or underbetting too much by this...one thing for sure is your sb stats look too loose/passive. It looks like you have a good idea what's going on, except I #4 is probably more like "not checking for pot control enough" or maybe "not laying down when it looks obvious i'm beat...or with one pair facing a turn raise" because I don't think there should be too many "tough" laydowns. Anyway just some thoughts, GL. I'm sure you can work things out, but post some hand histories!
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TerryToma
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full ring might be a better place to start, less variance IMO.
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martindcx1e
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<3 full ring
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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gabe
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your mistakes are probably postflop, which stats can't really tell us about
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biondino
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Your button play is too aggressive, certainly compared to the rest of your position play, and you're being beaten too often by either calling stations or players who can see what you're up to.
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Robert
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I'm pretty bad at analysing stats like these, but there are two things I would recommend you to do:
- Tighten up in the SB. Seriously, you are leaking money limping in with marginal hands when you will be OUT OF POSITION for the rest of the hand! (fwiw my sb vpip is 31%).
- Tighten up while you are running bad and learning the game. Cut your vpip down to something like 20% and let it stay until you feel more comfortable.
I cant really spot any glaring leaks in your stats, but like gabe said your mistakes are probably postflop. So tighten up some like I said until you get better at postflop and then - if you want to - you can open up your preflop range again. And yeah btw, listen to everything gabe says, cuz he's a BALLER!!!!1111oneone
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gabe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by biondino
Your button play is too aggressive
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no way, its hard to be too aggro on button.
fwiw, i raise over 25% of my hands from button (dont have stats in front of me so cant say exact number)
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silu73
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Thanks for your replies guys. As Gabe said I also believe that my problems are postflop where I am most likely far too loose. I will definetely post some HH where I believe where I went wrong.
I know that I have quite variance in my game but I did full ring before but didn't enjoy it very much although I was not multitabling them. Would it be advisable for me to go to FR and multitable them to work on my game or shall I persist with 6-max?
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bode
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i think full ring is the best way to get used to cash games. 6 max is too swingy and it can be discouraging to people just starting out. im in a similar situation as you, making the move from SnG's, and i find full ring is a much better pace, and i can 4 table and still pay attention to each one.
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