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Old 06-15-2008, 03:40 PM     Post subject: Line check 25NL #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($42.85)
BB ($9.15)
UTG ($24.90)
MP ($58.15)
Button ($59.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
2 folds, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $3.

Flop: ($8.25) 6, 2, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button calls $6.

Turn: ($20.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($40.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $23, Hero folds.

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Old 06-15-2008, 03:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Should read hero bets turn, shoves river. I think the converter is screwed up.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:55 PM #3 (permalink)  
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fine up to the turn, then depending how agro oppenent is i like a checkraise all in, going into check call/fold mode on this board is pretty bad imo. Also as your both fairly deep stacked you neeed to be 3 betting larger oop, closer to 6.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Are overpairs always teh nUts against unknowns on boards like this?
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:11 PM #5 (permalink)  
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no they aren't the nuts. but he never gave you a reason to think you are behind. I assume when you fold the river it's because you put him squarely on a flush draw which is more reason to bet the turn. That is a pretty safe flop and turn for us.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:12 PM #6 (permalink)  
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no, obviously there are tons of other factors we have to take into account,specific reads/stats would help with this. But against this guy whos either super agro or simply a good player (making reference to stack size) he could easily be floating us on the flop or be turning his mid/low pair or whatever into a bluff. As played i probs fold this as to many hands by the river beat you but thats only due to your weak/passive line earlier in the hand.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:25 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I like this hand.

I probably bet a bit more on the turn.
In a 3bet pot there are usually less draws in villians range but in this case (call, call) with that bet-sizing on river if villian isn't overly aggressive I usually find a fold as you did. (as there isnt another draw he could be on -sometimes villians call call with str draws, using flush cards as bluff outs.)

You really only beat 88-JJ and most villians are checking behind river thinking their hand has showdown value and very rarely value betting them in this spot or turning it into a bluff. (If he's good enough to turn hands with showdown value into a bluff he's good enough to know a 1/2 pot size bet isn't going to fold a hand he doesn't beat often enough at 25nl to be +ev)
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