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Numbr2intheWorld
Old 02-07-2007, 08:19 PM     Post subject: Line check 1/2 NL #1 (permalink)  
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 villian is pretty much unknown. He's played 40 or so hands as 16/9.

Do i call the river for the AQ, AK, possibly a straight and small donk factor? I just usually see sets an two pairs raising on the turn.

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Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: anusgutten ($342.35 in chips)
Seat 2: bugaa ($274.50 in chips)
Seat 3: redgrape ($216.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Muraca ($709 in chips)
Seat 5: SmutsHarry ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: FeARFaCT ($201 in chips)
FeARFaCT: posts small blind $1
anusgutten: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [Kc Qd]
bugaa: folds
redgrape: raises $6 to $8
Muraca: folds
SmutsHarry: folds
FeARFaCT: folds
anusgutten: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Ts Ad 8s]
anusgutten: checks
redgrape: bets $10
anusgutten: calls $10
*** TURN *** [Ts Ad 8s] [Jh]
anusgutten: checks
redgrape: bets $25
anusgutten: calls $25
*** RIVER *** [Ts Ad 8s Jh] [Ac]
anusgutten: checks
redgrape: bets $84
anusgutten: raises $215.35 to $299.35 and is all-in
redgrape: calls $89.10 and is all-in
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think the pot has become too big to fold once you have more than half your stack in. Dunno, he could have 88 or TT where he puts you on the ace and lets you hang yourself on the river, but he could also have Ax.

You're right about the two pair/ sets raising the turn though, kinda confusing ..cant wait for the results:P
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Fold, what do you think he thinks you have? This is bet is not meant to make you fold. And I don't think this villian overvalues trips on this board that badly.

Your bet sizing is also kinda weird. With the way you bet, it definately looks like you have an ace.


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Old 02-07-2007, 09:19 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Fold, what do you think he thinks you have? This is bet is not meant to make you fold. And I don't think this villian overvalues trips on this board that badly.

Your bet sizing is also kinda weird. With the way you bet, it definately looks like you have an ace.
I think your overreacting to villans range a little miuch, he didn't raise the turn on a relatively scary board, so it's kinda hard to believe he has two pair, but certainly can. I think you're way to committed on the river to fold, but I'm not sure i bet that much on the river, and may check behind on occasion.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:24 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I bet a little more on the turn. River is tough. Getting almost 4:1 I think it's a call. If this guy slowplayed his set or two pair with multiple draws on the board, then gg I guess. Not sure why you're betting pot on the river though... I like ~$60 there I think.
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:28 PM #6 (permalink)  
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My question is - who check/calls 3 times with AQ/AK here.
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My question is - who check/calls 3 times with AQ/AK here.
You mean twice, and the third time on river he makes trips, stops believing you have an A and check-pushes. Why not.

Doesnt mean that if you dont play that way, no one is.
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Fold, what do you think he thinks you have? This is bet is not meant to make you fold. And I don't think this villian overvalues trips on this board that badly.

Your bet sizing is also kinda weird. With the way you bet, it definately looks like you have an ace.
I think your overreacting to villans range a little miuch, he didn't raise the turn on a relatively scary board, so it's kinda hard to believe he has two pair, but certainly can. I think you're way to committed on the river to fold, but I'm not sure i bet that much on the river, and may check behind on occasion.
I agree with this. It's a funny line for anything that boats on the river.
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Old 02-08-2007, 06:44 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 At first i didn't really remember why i decided to pot the river, now i remember getting caught bluffing on a previous hand when i potted the river (although smaller pot). Thought it might induce a call from a hand that's probably pretty weak.
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:36 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Fold, what do you think he thinks you have? This is bet is not meant to make you fold. And I don't think this villian overvalues trips on this board that badly.

Your bet sizing is also kinda weird. With the way you bet, it definately looks like you have an ace.
I think your overreacting to villans range a little miuch, he didn't raise the turn on a relatively scary board, so it's kinda hard to believe he has two pair, but certainly can. I think you're way to committed on the river to fold, but I'm not sure i bet that much on the river, and may check behind on occasion.
I agree with this. It's a funny line for anything that boats on the river.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:39 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 Why does AJ or JJ play it differently?
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Lol at this decision. Just call. You got caught bluffing earlier, which carries the trip Ax range to the river with you often enough. Also, as others stated, villain doesn't slowplay a set or two pair on early streets unless he's uber passive.
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yea you might see AJ or JJ but u have a straight and the pot odds are awesome, call
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:32 PM #14 (permalink)  
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I'm a weak tight motherfucker who folds at the merest hint of trouble and I call this. There are too many cards he could hold that you're ahead of considering the 4:1 odds.
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