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Old 09-08-2006, 04:14 PM     Post subject: Like, no like...??? #1 (permalink)  

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Hand #1 - Villain was 41/18 over around 200 hands. I had a good read that he'd bet pretty large if checked to on the flop. Just worried that my play is bad in the sense that anything calling me beats me.

Hand #2 - Is this move bad in the sense that anything calling me has me beat or has the odds on me?

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Button ($71.95)
Hero ($81.73)
BB ($54.50)
UTG ($38.06)
MP ($22.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero (poster) raises to $5.75, 1 fold, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 9, 8, T (2 players)

Final Pot: $12.50


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Hero ($83.88)
UTG ($64.60)
MP ($35.01)
Button ($19.30)
SB ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $1.5, Button calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) Q, J, 8 (3 players)
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:16 PM #2 (permalink)  

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Either converter messed up or I have no clue how to input hands correctly.

Hand #1 - I checked on the flop OOP, villain bet $10, I went all-in...

Hand #2 - I was checked to by the SB...I went all-in


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 So, in Hand one you pushed $75 into a $20 pot?
And, in Hand two you pushed $84 in a $6 pot?

Frankly, Hand 1 is such a nasty board for AA that you are only going to get called by a better hand here, as most people even fold TPTK here given how much it is costing them. I think just playing it normally and keeping the pot small is the best play.

Hand 2. You want to call an all-in here by a flush draw rather than push and get called. Although they work out the same money wise. I think you got a little jumpy here and afraid you were going to lose your set after building such a ''massive'' pot that you had to protect it.


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So, in Hand one you pushed $75 into a $20 pot?
And, in Hand two you pushed $84 in a $6 pot?

Frankly, Hand 1 is such a nasty board for AA that you are only going to get called by a better hand here, as most people even fold TPTK here given how much it is costing them. I think just playing it normally and keeping the pot small is the best play.

Hand 2. You want to call an all-in here by a flush draw rather than push and get called. Although they work out the same money wise. I think you got a little jumpy here and afraid you were going to lose your set after building such a ''massive'' pot that you had to protect it.
Thanks. In both hands I was OOP but felt I definitely had the best hand post-flop. How would you play them? Just put in a 2/3 or pot-sized bet post flop and let the striaght/flush draw chase it down? I'm just not sure how to play the hand when I'm pretty sure I have the best hand post-flop but don't want players chasing me down because I'm keeping the pot relatively small?

If I was called in both hands with pot sized bets on the flop, how would you play the turn if it didn't help the straight/flush draw? Put in another 2/3 or pot sized bet on the turn to try to run them off? If you were raised at any point would you put it all-in?

Thanks for the help
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Premature pushing is the sign of a player who's afraid to play postflop poker.
True. Thank you. How would you play the hands OOP?
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 no need to push these. play them out, and if someone has a strait or flush, let then go. pretty standard
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