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Old 09-27-2008, 11:20 PM     Post subject: Let's talk about a small pot #1 (permalink)  
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Opponent just sat down with a short buy and looks kinda loose/bad.

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$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($217.60)
CO ($160.15)
Hero ($194.70)
SB ($198.00)
BB ($102.40)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($29, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($29, 2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero folds
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:53 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Umm you did fine imo ; I look this up probably about 40% of the time with no reads other than "likely random bad player". I fold if I'm hating variance atm of the hand.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I lead the turn so I either take it
or I can check the river behind if he called with a flush draw

does that make sense?
I expect pps not to call the turn bet, but flush draws to call
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:20 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 i basically never fold when all draws miss and i have an A high that beats them all.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i basically never fold when all draws miss and i have an A high that beats them all.
yeah, call.
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 I sometimes check behind flop, and I never two barrel this board or call the river against a bad player....Is that bad??
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:07 AM #7 (permalink)  
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This is making the assumption that he bets his missed draws 100% of the time and it's still a fold.

Board: 8d Qc 6c
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.490% 71.91% 00.58% 1443775 11629.50 { TT-66, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, A8s, Ac7c, A6s, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, K8s, Kc7c, K6s, Q6s+, J8s+, Jc7c, J6s, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 5c4c, AQo, A8o, KQo, JTo, T8o+, 98o }
Hand 1: 27.510% 26.93% 00.58% 540686 11629.50 { A7o }
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his value range isnt that big.

and he has more bluffs than just missed draws he will probably show up with shit like K10 sometimes.
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:02 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcatdog
This is making the assumption that he bets his missed draws 100% of the time and it's still a fold.

Board: 8d Qc 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.490% 71.91% 00.58% 1443775 11629.50 { TT-66, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, A8s, Ac7c, A6s, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, K8s, Kc7c, K6s, Q6s+, J8s+, Jc7c, J6s, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 5c4c, AQo, A8o, KQo, JTo, T8o+, 98o }
Hand 1: 27.510% 26.93% 00.58% 540686 11629.50 { A7o }
this range is crazy. i dont get why you posted it.

folding and calling are super close in this hand.
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:32 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 if you re calling w JJ you should be calling w A7
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:35 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Bet the turn?
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 Never bet the turn.

His range is balanced, if the turn card was a 2 with same action i'd call. The 8 is a great card for his range in two ways. One is he's much more likely to have an 8 then you. Secondly, he has two easy vbets on the river instead of one (an 8 and a Q).
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 im rarely in this spot and i think its because i normally check flop.
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