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Iwind
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02-14-2006, 11:35 AM
Post subject: Lagg vs. loose passive calling stations
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Norway
Posts: 436
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I signed up for Doyles Room yesturday to clear a bonus there, and most of the players there were really bad, all the 50NL 6 max tables had at least 3 shortstacks $30-15, and pretty much all of the players were loose passive. The style I have been playing so far, loose and aggressive in position and taking down pots with continuation bets and so on doesn't really work here. Cause I very seldom win the blinds, they call me with pretty much any face card, or any connector as low as 23o. If I continuation bet they'll call me down with mid pair or just draws, and I don't want that unless I do have a hand.
I feel like playing laggy at such tables is impossible, or are there adjustments I can make? If I make really big bets they will probably fold their marginal hands, but again that makes me loose a real big pot when they do have a hand. I've really tightened up, I raise my good hands for value and bet out big when I hit the flop, I also limp suited connectors and low pocket pair instead of raising them here. I'm doing ok, but not doing as good as I was playing laggy at tables with tight players at other sites. Are there more adjustments I should make? Maybe just really tightening up and drop suited conectors and card camp would work well? Don't really like card camping, but any tips welcome
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Pingviini
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bangkok
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I know how you feel. I am facing the same problem quite often with this kind of players. It is hard to change the style of play you are so accustomed to. Limp more with bigger SC's (and smaller ones against bigger stacks)with smaller PP's (perhaps up to 99) because your raises PF get no respect and they have no intention to put you on hands anyways. Raise PF for value. Postflop find the sweet spot to make value bets so that the fish dont fold when you have the goods. Fuck meta-game, learn the bet size where they fold middle pair and such. Learn to make 3-bet/CR AI with good draws in right spots. You will gets odsd almost anyways if they call because their stacks are so small + FE will make it worthwhile.
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"Poker is a simple math game" -Aba20
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sunfunbunch
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Loose passives.....
Hmm.... I'll raise a less amount pre-flop [none of those HUGE bets. of 3XBB + limper kinda things. Maybe 3-3.5XBB
I call them "pot builders" . No need to protect your hand, and no need for a continuation bet if you REALLY miss.
Play more of a post flop game.
Sounds awkwards but it reasonbly works =).
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Iwind
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Norway
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Thanks for tips, been adjusting my game a little more, according to some of the stuff suggested. And I'm playing laggy with the few tight decent players there are there. Seems to work pretty well, up two buyins in this session at least. Been paid off a few times limping along with suited connectors, calling small bets on flop and turn, they tend to bet small, and then taking down nice pots when hitting. Hopefully I can make a decent profit here at the same time as I'm clearing bonus I mean, it's such bad players I want at my table, it's just a bit hard adjusting to, and wish they had more chips
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zenbitz
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2004
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How worthwhile is it to lagg for a couple-three orbits (probably loosing money) then tightening up on tables like this?
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Build pots. Value bet (give bad odds) with the best hand after the flop.
I see a lot of people have a problem adjusting to different opponent styles. Here's the thing you have to remember... "where are these opponents making mistakes"?
They call when behind too often. How do you exploit this? If you don't put money in the pot with bad odds to win showdown against a table full of people who are doing just that and often, you will mathmatically drain them over a period of variable time. It's definate.
How do you beat tighter players? Where are they making mistakes? They obviously fold too much. How do you exploit this? The only difference between low and high stakes is that low stakes players often remain the same, and don't adjust to what you're doing. It doesn't matter who you play though. If you properly play against their current tendancy and thought process, you win.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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r8ed
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by zenbitz
How worthwhile is it to lagg for a couple-three orbits (probably loosing money) then tightening up on tables like this?
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Very.
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by zenbitz
How worthwhile is it to lagg for a couple-three orbits (probably loosing money) then tightening up on tables like this? Very.
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Good question. Never tried to lagg against a table handing me value on a silver platter.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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r8ed
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
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Originally Posted by zenbitz
How worthwhile is it to lagg for a couple-three orbits (probably loosing money) then tightening up on tables like this? Very.
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Good question. Never tried to lagg against a table handing me value on a silver platter. |
Always looking for he easy way out Rondavu.
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