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Old 03-06-2007, 05:04 AM     Post subject: l.o.l. pukaments #1 (permalink)  
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 PokerStars Game #8761806987: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/03/06 - 00:40:36 (ET)
Table 'Koon II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Renton555 ($776.90 in chips)
Seat 2: WSU Slacker ($394 in chips)
Seat 3: tom90cu ($156 in chips)
Seat 4: any4moore ($231.95 in chips)
Seat 5: gopack7245 ($397.95 in chips)
Seat 6: dictionary ($826.60 in chips)
tom90cu: posts small blind $2
any4moore: posts big blind $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [Kc Ks]

gopack7245: calls $4
dictionary: folds
Renton555: raises $16 to $20
WSU Slacker: folds
tom90cu: folds
any4moore: folds
gopack7245: calls $16

*** FLOP *** [7d 2d Jd]

gopack7245: checks
Renton555: bets $36
gopack7245: raises $40 to $76
Renton555: calls $40

*** TURN *** [7d 2d Jd] [4h]

gopack7245: bets $244
Renton555: folds

Villain is 30/10, probably a pretty weak player. Not very aggressive at all. I know this is insta fold, but i need assurance.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:13 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Why are we calling on the flop?
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 Adx loses a lot of value on the turn and I can see calling on the flop only to see what he does on the turn. The passive types aren't willing to bet so strong consecutive streets with draws.

I call the flop because minraises can mean so much but most likely after the turn bet we're definately beat.


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Fnord I've usually seen loose-passives shutdown on semi-bluffs when they whiff the turn. So sometimes you'll get to showdown cheaply vs Ad-x hands.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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 So do we give a free card on the turn if he checks?

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So do we give a free card on the turn if he checks?
I dont usually; but we could if we don't pay off another diamond or think he'll call with a worse hand.


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Why are we calling on the flop?
I guess it's time to display my noobiness at SHNL....

I don't see any other option except to call here. Raising seems stupid since we are probably either racing or way behind. His basic minraise is either a semibluff which he won't fold or a made hand which we are basically drawing dead to.

Folding seems stupid since he could so easily be betting the Adx here.

I call and reevauluate the turn.
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Meh this is fine.

If I *really* wanted to stack off here, I'd wait till a safe turn like the one we got to committ.
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 I'd give a free card on the turn here almost 100% of the time.

Villain earned it by raising the flop ; now getting stack-a-donked would be tragic.

Chard your post makes a lot of sense. Stop berating yourself!
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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I would have played it exactly the same for the same reasons Chardrian gave.
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I must have played against completely different opponents than you guys because in my experience, people who check-raise the flop, make a big bet on a blank turn well over 80% of the time, and the percentage is even higher if the player is bad. If "call and re-evaluate" means "call and fold to a big turn bet" then the flop call is horrible IMO.
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 Do these just barely more than a min-raise type bets scare anyone else? To me it seems like they're always the nuts.


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