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08-15-2007, 12:26 AM
Post subject: KQ hand ($50nl)
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lines like these always confuse me. It seems a set/draw and the latter all got there. Is this one of those thin value bets?
villain is 56/20/2 over 87 hands.
Bet of check behind, and why?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
Hero ($51.50)
MP ($23.10)
CO ($26.10)
Button ($49.05)
SB ($65.75)
BB ($68.35)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , K .
Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.
Flop: ($4.50) Q , 7 , 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.
Turn: ($16.50) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.5, SB calls $9.50.
River: ($35.50) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero???
Final Pot: $35.50
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Why not check behind the turn? Are you thinking he is so loose you get value from 9x or 7x or quite possibly a lower Q?
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Why not check behind the turn? Are you thinking he is so loose you get value from 9x or 7x or quite possibly a lower Q?
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i usually take this line when i get c/r'ed on the flop but villain doesnt lead out the turn. Not that common of a situation, but c/r'ing and not leading out is a big sign of weakness IMO. Of course this is exploitable, but its uncommon and most 50nl villains really arent thinking about these things.
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I still think those flop minraises on these boards, followed by a turn check, are almost always draws. So I like your turn bet.
I probably play this the same and check behind river because you only beat QT. If the river wasn't a J I'd bet and hopefully get called by a Q.
I'm struggling with these situations when OOP. What's our play then? Call flop, lead turn? Call flop, c/c turn, c/c river?
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Originally Posted by minSim
I'm struggling with these situations when OOP. What's our play then? Call flop, lead turn? Call flop, c/c turn, c/c river?
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depends on the villain and overall situation. I take both of these lines, sometimes c/r flop too.
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Originally Posted by minSim
I'm struggling with these situations when OOP. What's our play then? Call flop, lead turn? Call flop, c/c turn, c/c river?
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depends on the villain and overall situation. I take both of these lines, sometimes c/r flop too.
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I don't see why c/r flop would be good being the PFR.
Could you elaborate why you do this sometimes?
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Originally Posted by minSim
I'm struggling with these situations when OOP. What's our play then? Call flop, lead turn? Call flop, c/c turn, c/c river?
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depends on the villain and overall situation. I take both of these lines, sometimes c/r flop too.
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I don't see why c/r flop would be good being the PFR.
Could you elaborate why you do this sometimes?
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just to mix it up. If i raise from MP and CO calls, the standard line is c-bet or check. Sometimes its good to c/r to mix up your play.
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