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EzDuzIt
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01-01-2008, 06:08 AM
Post subject: KQ 200nl
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Full House
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villan is unknown except that i searched him and he is playing one 200nl table and one 600nl table. he insta raised the flop.
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
BB: $200
UTG: $38.40
MP: $124.10
CO: $149.05
BTN: $197.70
Hero (SB): $479.70
Pre-Flop: Q K dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, BTN raises to $7, Hero raises to $24, BB folds, BTN calls $17
Flop: ($50) T K 5 (2 Players)
Hero bets $35, BTN raises to $155, hero
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iolzizlyi
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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i know i have no business posting in a 200NL thread but i figure i'll give it a shot first. i would probably fold this. that is a pretty crazy raise. AK, KT, K5, TT, 55 beat you...but his button opening range is way wider than that. i dunno. i probably folded because i dont know where i'm at.
EDIT the more i look at it the more i want to shove. i guess it's a WA/WB situation.
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Fnord
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01-01-2008, 08:39 AM
Post subject: Re: KQ 200nl
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Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
he insta raised the flop.
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Pretty good chance he was planning to raise a lot of flops when he called pre-flop.
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thizzSantaCruz
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puuuuuuush
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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EzDuzIt
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yeah looking back this seems like a kind of obv shove.
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phantom_lord
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shipship
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Galapogos
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Yeah, if you don't like getting all in on this flop when you hit your really shouldn't be 3-betting then.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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sauce123
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this is a lot harder 300BB deep
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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gabe
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01-02-2008, 04:25 AM
Post subject: Re: KQ 200nl
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
he insta raised the flop.
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Pretty good chance he was planning to raise a lot of flops when he called pre-flop.
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shhhh
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iolzizlyi
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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what do insta-raises and insta-calls typically mean to you guys? to me they mean a weaker hand. i guess it's because it takes more thought to determine what your opponent might have and how much more you can get out of them. esp insta-raises. which is why i try to always use up the same amount of clock if possible regardless of whether i know what i want to do or not.
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bigspenda73
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insta-raises mean there wasn't a lot of thought going into a decision, and since it's a lot harder to have the nuts than it is air, they are generally weak imo.
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Galapogos
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I take insta-raises to mean they basically already made up their mind before they even saw your action/the board/ etc. I would think someone with a good hand would want to figure out how to extract value from you. Of course, other times it's just a guy that can't get his money in the pot fast enough with a winning hand so I don't put too much faith into what it could mean unless I know the player.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Rondavu
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01-02-2008, 10:59 AM
Post subject: Re: KQ 200nl
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Originally Posted by gabe
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
he insta raised the flop.
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Pretty good chance he was planning to raise a lot of flops when he called pre-flop.
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shhhh
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LOL
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I bet he has a gutter.
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