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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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03-17-2010, 01:40 PM
Post subject: KK vs villian repping a fullhouse - 50NL
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Full House
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Villain is 23/19/2.6 3b:7% over 700+ hands and is a winner in my database.
This line is almost always a PP and I expect him to 3B TT+ here. I expect him to call flop with almost any pair. Turn CR + river lead, seems like his trying to rep 99/77/33. What should I be doing on the turn and river?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) -
BB ($12.25)
UTG ($12.25)
MP ($51.50)
CO ($76.55)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($52.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with , 
3 folds, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold
Flop: ($3.50) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.50) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, SB raises to $14, Hero calls $8.50
River: ($36.50) (2 players)
SB bets $27
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pocketfours
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b/f turn is the easy way to play it but it's obviously pretty exploitable since you opened OTB. Griffey might play A9s like this. Flip a coin on both streets?
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Carroters
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I'm probably just calling down here. He has very few combos of 3s or boats and there's a few draws he could be taking this line with since our range is likely reasonably weak still having opened OTB.
This is a good river for us to snap as played imo; probably one he'll decide he has to continue on with all his bluffs/missed semi bluffs. Shit he might even bet a Q here for value once in a while because our hand looks so much like A9, TT, JJ etc, although this is obviously kind of uncertain especially given sizing.
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pjpat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carroters
I'm probably just calling down here. He has very few combos of 3s or boats and there's a few draws he could be taking this line with since our range is likely reasonably weak still having opened OTB.
This is a good river for us to snap as played imo; probably one he'll decide he has to continue on with all his bluffs/missed semi bluffs. Shit he might even bet a Q here for value once in a while because our hand looks so much like A9, TT, JJ etc, although this is obviously kind of uncertain especially given sizing.
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that quite big raise on turn here makes me also think he might have a semi-strong hand or even is semi-bluffing here (AQ clubs, A9 clubs..) rather than holding the nuts or close to (77/99/A3...).
the 33 also save you if he hit 2pair on this board (Q9 clubs?)
i don't think we win all the time here but i'd call..
also: what was the timing on your call on turn?
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Alexos
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b/f turn, he's obv on a boat mothafuckaz
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Mr. Diamond
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if you think that he 3bet TT+ pre, turn is b/f
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Galapogos
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I snap fold this. It's the classic donk trap line and no one's going to exploit you at 50NL here.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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pocketfours
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I've got to say I usually DREAM of having an overpair in these spots.
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griffey24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pocketfours
b/f turn is the easy way to play it but it's obviously pretty exploitable since you opened OTB. Griffey might play A9s like this. Flip a coin on both streets?
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haha well if I was villain with A9s here, I'd probably c/c river.
All I know is that I'm very bad at folding in these "they rep so few hands, so many draws bricked" kind of spots.
If he has a reasonably high 3bet in the blinds, he's probably even 3betting 99 some % of the time.
Snap fold turn so he doesn't think you're making a big fold on this kind of board is prob best.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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BigLRIP
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Originally Posted by griffey24
Snap fold turn so he doesn't think you're making a big fold on this kind of board is prob best.
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tstrout
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I would call in a heartbeat. He's probably playing your hand, not his through the turn and blasting the river hoping you don't have a queen. I would view your button raise as weak and try to push you off your hand too in this spot. There's a few hands that can beat you, but did you really expect to flop a set of kings? That flop was a dream flop for you, a low pair to counterfeit a middle two-pair. No ace came. No straight came. No flush came. You have to pay off in this situation the few times you are beat.
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