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Galapogos
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05-07-2009, 10:35 PM
Post subject: KK vs big river c/r
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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Villain is an unimpressive reg who runs 20/15/2.9 over a good sample. His flop aggression is a 4 and his river aggression is a 2. I haven't seen him putting his stack in very lightly except preflop. The BB is a loose passive fishy type player but I'm not sure the SB knows this since he just sat down a few hands ago.
I really should have bet the turn looking back now because I doubt he's calling with 67s preflop OOP. But his flop donk had me confused since I had never seen him do that before so I decided to take a safer line.
The only reason I want to call is my hand looks like it can't stand a c/r but I don't see why he'd make such a massive overbet on a bluff.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($117.90)
CO ($96.25)
Hero (BTN) ($574.85)
SB ($198.00)
BB ($353.85)
Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN  
2 folds, Hero bets $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4
Flop:    ($18, 3 players)
SB bets $13, BB folds, Hero calls $13
Turn:  ($44, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River:  ($44, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $31, SB goes all-in $179
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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This looks like a fold. Any relevant timing tells?
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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No timing tells.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Unimpressive reg?
Big check/raise?
I snapfold
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will641
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: getting my swell on
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looks like a pretty easy fold.
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me.
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,676
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Originally Posted by will641
looks like a pretty easy fold.
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bspahn
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 851
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i'd fold as well
when he checks the turn you can easily bet here and it doesnt have to be a large bet. basically you're getting pwned by a 9 and beating just about everything else, but the other hands you're beating probably aren't going to put a ton of money in there, smaller pairs etc some hands like TT perhaps too. maybe half pot turn & river and puke to any CR
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BigPapi
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
Posts: 437
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Fold, but about timing tells... do we consider calling here more if he instashoves?
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Sugar Nut
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: grinderschool.com
Posts: 42
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Have you seen him donk before? I don't think a lot of ppl will take that line with better than KK on that flop.
I might be inclined to raise flop for value and to induce some spazzy stuff but to be honest "over a good sample" should give you more reads than just some numbers, so out of all of us you should be able to make the best decision in this hand.
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javierloco09
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i would fold but your hand was good before the flop
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by javierloco09
i would fold but your hand was good before the flop
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Thanks tips.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,148
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Looks bluffy but given preflop and flop id fold
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