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Genitruc
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10-13-2007, 08:38 PM
Post subject: KK Nice Spot
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,463
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Playing HUDless and Trackerless on my new notebook so from memory :
I have been punishing a loose-passive in position a ton.
Since he got to the table I've also been pretty aggro postflop, CRing him and leading scare cards quite a bit.
He has started calling me down lightly and won the last hand by calling a 2nd barrel in a limped pot with A high on a scary board on the turn.
He is also capable of leading the turn pretty aggressively when I've shown weakness ( previous hand he lead turn with QJ on AxyK after I checked behind on flop).
We are 380$ deep (NL200)
I raise KK from HJ, villain calls from BB.
Flop is   
He bets 4$ into 14$ I raise to 30$, he calls
Turn is  he leads 45$ into 75ish
What is my move
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Ash256
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
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If that was the Qd I might say shove.. As it is though... jeeez
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,148
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bleh, call and fold river? idk it seems like your behind.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
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i think its some sort of blocking bets the bad passives make oop on party Im assuming its 1/2nl on party?) but this could also be one of those bad spots where he know thinks we have a bit of it and he wants to get value.
Instinct says call maybe push, but i dont like it.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
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I think he called the flop with the nut FD, and hit his ace. Either that or he's still on some draw and is blocking.
I think the best play here is to flat call and hope he shuts down on the river.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,463
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1 - how would it change things if the turn card were the 
2 - if we call and he checks the river to us, do we bet?
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Alexos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montreal
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by griffey24
I think he called the flop with the nut FD, and hit his ace. Either that or he's still on some draw and is blocking.
I think the best play here is to flat call and hope he shuts down on the river.
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i like
vs this guy i probably dont fold turn, but idk really seems like we're beat
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