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Old 08-11-2007, 09:02 PM     Post subject: KK busted 2 time in a row by the same donk #1 (permalink)  
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this was the first hand

Texas Hold'em $0.50

Seat 1: Goos8 ($47.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Douling ($31.45 in chips)
Seat 5: darkmoo ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 6: defstef81 [ KS,KH ] ($51.20 in chips)
Seat 7: k1llmachine ($48.45 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Goos8 posts blind ($0.25), Douling posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
darkmoo folds, defstef81 bets $2, k1llmachine folds, Goos8 folds, Douling calls $1.50.

FLOP [board cards 8S,2D,9H ]
Douling checks, defstef81 bets $3, Douling calls $3.

TURN [board cards 8S,2D,9H,2C ]
Douling checks, defstef81 bets $8, Douling bets $16, defstef81 bets $30, Douling calls $10.45 and is all-in.

RIVER [board cards 8S,2D,9H,2C,AS ]

SHOWDOWN
defstef81 shows [ KS,KH ]
Douling shows [ AC,2S ]
Douling wins $61.65, defstef81 wins $11.55.


and the second
Texas Hold'em $0.50

Seat 1: Goos8 ($40.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Douling ($73.75 in chips)
Seat 5: darkmoo ($34.35 in chips)
Seat 6: defstef81 [ KD,KS ] ($53.15 in chips)
Seat 7: k1llmachine ($50.00 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
darkmoo posts blind ($0.25), defstef81 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
k1llmachine folds, Goos8 calls $0.50, Douling calls $0.50, darkmoo folds, defstef81 bets $3, Goos8 calls $3, Douling calls $3.

FLOP [board cards 8H,10C,6D ]
defstef81 bets $8, Goos8 folds, Douling calls $8.

TURN [board cards 8H,10C,6D,QH ]
defstef81 bets $20, Douling bets $40, defstef81 bets $21.65 and is all-in, Douling calls $1.65.

RIVER [board cards 8H,10C,6D,QH,2H ]

SHOWDOWN
defstef81 shows [ KD,KS ]
Douling shows [ 9C,JH ]
Douling wins $108.55.

i really cant fold to his minraise, or can i? fucking downswing, my winrate went from 5ptbb to 3 in a weak
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:10 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:22 PM #3 (permalink)  
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douling has good hands also i think u dont realize KK = 1 pair.... he minraised u twice on turn with no highcards out... what can u beat there.... ?
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:25 PM #4 (permalink)  
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douling has good hands also i think u dont realize KK = 1 pair.... he minraised u twice on turn with no highcards out... what can u beat there.... ?
opp ismore than likely a spewing fish, we are so ahead of his range its not funny.
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:44 PM #5 (permalink)  
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douling has good hands also i think u dont realize KK = 1 pair.... he minraised u twice on turn with no highcards out... what can u beat there.... ?
opp ismore than likely a spewing fish, we are so ahead of his range its not funny.
oh rly ? whats his minraising range for those turns ? u think they are always there with A8 ? hardly.... if he is fish then wold he minraise turn on draw ? nah... .....
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:45 PM #6 (permalink)  
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hes 60/7 over 80 hands, but i guess he has more postflopskill than i have
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:48 PM #7 (permalink)  
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on the 2nd hand im getting over 4-1. can you really fold this?
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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60/7 well thats loose passive.... but he got aggro on those turns.... u cant ignore that. with toppair he dont raise.

that 4-1 call is prolly not bad as there are lot of 2 pairs in his range and u can hope for suckout on river, but this is purely math look.

i think u should be willing to play smaller pots with unimproved big pairs. (eg dont lead oop for so much on turn as u did)... ofcourse its esay to say here as it dont work out for u in these hands but still.. dont loose big pots against calling stations with big pairs.. dont ignore information and be careful oop...
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