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Old 08-13-2006, 05:35 AM     Post subject: KK against shorty #1 (permalink)  
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$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 13, 01:32:15 ET 2006
Table Monster #1287521 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: padlojo ( $55.30 )
Seat 6: im2sexy_ ( $155.41 )
Seat 1: AATrain01 ( $118.59 )
Seat 4: Notorious_MC ( $69 )
Seat 5: dogpound20 ( $17 )
Seat 2: derf367 ( $29 )
AATrain01 posts small blind [$0.50].
derf367 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ Kd Kc ]
padlojo folds.
Notorious_MC folds.
dogpound20 folds.
>You have options at Monster #1287517 Table!.
im2sexy_ folds.
AATrain01 raises [$2.50].
derf367 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 9c, 4h ]
>You have options at Monster #1287369 Table!.
AATrain01 bets [$4].
derf367 calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
AATrain01 checks.
derf367 bets [$5].
>You have options at Monster #1287581 Table!.
AATrain01 raises [$22].
derf367 is all-In [$17]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
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Renton
Old 08-13-2006, 05:43 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 raise more preflop

I probably bet/fold this on the turn, not being results oriented.
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Old 08-13-2006, 05:58 AM #3 (permalink)  
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raise more preflop

I probably bet/fold this on the turn, not being results oriented.
wouldnt i be pot committed on turn if i bet, especially if i raised to 4 pf instead of 3 and given his stack size??
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Old 08-13-2006, 06:13 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 i dunno its tough,

the turn is a horrible card for you.

BTW the more you raise pf, the more you can get all in after the flop and not care if you won or lost.
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Old 08-13-2006, 07:36 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I would raise bigger preflop to about $3.50-4 total, and bet 3/4 pot on the flop. The turn is a shitty card but I don't see folding as a viable option here given stack sizes. I would bet/call or check-raise all in if I thought he would bet. Looks ok though.
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:17 AM #6 (permalink)  
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My standard pfr at stars 100NL is 4x, and i rarely deviate from that, except for perhaps raising it a bit if I have fishy limpers hanging around. I would expect that to be the minimum at a party monster table as well.

I agree with aislephive, there's no way I'm getting away from this, I lead all streets and call any raises. He's a shorty, I tend to get shorties all in quite often.
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:19 AM #7 (permalink)  
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He's a shorty, I tend to get shorties all in quite often.
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Old 08-13-2006, 05:23 PM #8 (permalink)  

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Can't this depend on the type of shorty? Most shorties I have played with are usually horrible. And call alot. The other type of shorty, which I have only seen a few times, is the push or fold shorty.

If you think the guy might call, push preflop.

But I suppose this is read dependant and not answering the hand question; I would push the flop with this hand. Don't let them get lucky; Make them try to get lucky.
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