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08-30-2007, 12:30 AM
Post subject: KK in 4-bet pot, tough spot on flop
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 399
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Villain 19/16 over 253 hands and haven't really noticed anything special or odd about his play.
I wish I just had shoved pre-flop now. Only thing I can really hope that he has is AK without the A of clubs but would he really lead that flop for $100 with a clubless AK?
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
UTG ($200)
MP ($300.55)
CO ($386.15)
Hero ($199)
SB ($362)
BB ($286.15)
Preflop: Hero is Button with  ,  . UTG posts a blind of $2.
MP raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $27, 2 folds, MP raises to $66, Hero calls $39.
Flop: ($135)  ,  ,  (3 players)
MP bets $100, Hero...
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wufwugy
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4-of-a-Kind
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Wow, that is so not a tough spot.
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wufwugy
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4-of-a-Kind
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It looks tough because you didn't push preflop. You're getting pretty much 2:1, and that's really all you need against a reasonable range.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Why didn't you shove pre?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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shove please pre.
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I Like Pie
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Originally Posted by Massimo
Why didn't you shove pre?
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because I'm an idiot.
I guess I was just trying to do something different there, plan backfired.
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
It looks tough because you didn't push preflop. You're getting pretty much 2:1, and that's really all you need against a reasonable range.
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You're right, the price is just about right for what I put him on.
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Board: Qc Jc 3c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.520% 31.07% 02.45% 3999 315.00 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 66.480% 64.03% 02.45% 8241 315.00 { JJ+, AcKd, AcKs }
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wufwugy
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4-of-a-Kind
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He can't have AKcc or AKch.
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Toadstool
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I think you played it correctly preflop - if you shove and opponant doesnt suck he is going to fold QQ/JJ/AK and call when he has you dominated with AA. At least if you call you will most likely get him to put some more money in on the flop if he has a worse hand than you.
flop is a tough spot - you are most probably behind but are only truly crushed by AxAc, I really think that this situation, folding and raising are both ok here
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EzDuzIt
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Green Bay
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no shove preflop.
he usually calling with all of those hands if hes 4betting them.
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I Like Pie
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Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
He can't have AKcc or AKch.
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My bad, thought I took those out. I think PokerStove accounts for that anyways.
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