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Vi-Zer0Skill
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03-25-2010, 05:26 AM
Post subject: KJs 100nl turn decision
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Reagan's Kid
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opponent is GoFlips. tonight is the first time i've played with him, but he has been 3betting me like a maniac in position and i haven't done anything yet to counter him. this is the first time he's flatted one of my raises. he seems to be the prototypical very aggressive 100nl reg.
what in the world should i do on the turn?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
BB ($101.50)
Hero (UTG) ($131.75)
MP ($102.50)
Button ($94.50)
SB ($283.20)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , J
Hero bets $4, MP calls $4, 3 folds
Flop: ($9.50) 10 , J , 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7
Turn: ($23.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero...
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Luke999
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Nasty spot as this kind of nails his flatting range, not to mention theres no Jx you beat now really. I'd check decide and wouldn't mind a C/F.
(how does he play flush draws/big hands on drawy boards would be helpfull if you know)
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minSim
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Just c/f. This turn just smacks his range and yes he has a FD some amount of the time but if he's a little aggressive he's often gonna take this pot aways from you with it anyway and there's not much you can do about it.
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Mr. Diamond
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I agree with minSim
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tstrout
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Why not throw a 1/2 pot sized-bet out and try to take it? If his hand is similar to yours, he will give it up based upon the same fear. Besides, how does he know you don't have KQ which is quite possible based on the pre-flop action and flop bet? Just a thought, but it might be worth a try, obviously any Q calls or raises, but you fold the flush draws probably. The board is scary, true enough, but without a queen, it scares him just as much as you.
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shakesss
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Check and hope it checks down. I wouldn't put any more money in on the turn oop here.
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Luke999
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tstrout
Why not throw a 1/2 pot sized-bet out and try to take it? If his hand is similar to yours, he will give it up based upon the same fear. Besides, how does he know you don't have KQ which is quite possible based on the pre-flop action and flop bet? Just a thought, but it might be worth a try, obviously any Q calls or raises, but you fold the flush draws probably. The board is scary, true enough, but without a queen, it scares him just as much as you.
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Seems like an invitation to get shoved on, it's just burning money. If we have a queen are we really betting half pot when the board is very draw heavy?
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Da GOAT
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yea c/f
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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gabe
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id c/f. he doesnt necessarily fold stuff that beats you or turn 1 pair hands into bluffs as much as he needs to make c/f bad
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Dex
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
id c/f. he doesnt necessarily fold stuff that beats you or turn 1 pair hands into bluffs as much as he needs to make c/f bad
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This. I think it's pretty easy to overestimate how often we are going to get bluffed off our hand on the turn.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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yeah when i was reviewing my session, i was thinking c/f was best in this hand. in the actual hand i check/called, then ginned the river when a non club Queen hit. i screwed up by not checking to this aggro guy; he probably would have done my betting for me
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