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Vi-Zer0Skill
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09-04-2007, 02:27 AM
Post subject: As-Jx 200NL
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Reagan's Kid
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Villain is 13/10 over ~1k hands - none mined.
Should i be checking behind on this turn?
Villain's range: (6s-6x - Qs-Qx, xs-xs). I know he would c/r AI TPTK or a set in this situation.
I think i can get him to fold the smaller pocket pairs to a turn shove, but think he would usually call with 10s-10x+. Should i take the free card with so many outs against hands i will/sometimes will fold?
Hero: ($256.50 in chips)
Villain: ($236.35 in chips)
1 other player
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero: [As Jh]
1 fold
Villain: raises $6 to $8
Hero: raises $16 to $24
Villain: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [5s 3s Ks]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $42
Villain: calls $42
*** TURN *** [5s 3s Ks] [5c]
Villain: checks
Hero: ?
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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sauce123
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ur 3bet is kinda thin vs this dude but ok
I'd prolly 5/6 pot flop shove any turn as played
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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snowbird4life
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I wouldn't 3bet this guy with the hand you are holding. I think usually a 13/10 is calling your 3bet and flop bet with a hand that is better than what you have put as his range, maybe im wrong and you know villain better than me from just looking at stats but i probably wouldn't shove the turn without some decent reads either.
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zook
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Fold pre-flop. I like a turn shove as played. If you get called, you better hope those diamonds turn back into spades 
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IowaSkinsFan
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Well obviously butchered HH, but i dont blame you if you have a legitimate question.
Yeah sauce's line. Most of the time on these boards good opps look to fold the turn after calling the flop.
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by zook
If you get called, you better hope those diamonds turn back into spades |
lol
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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edited for continuity 
In actuality, villain had c/r'ed me AI on the flop with K-3s, and i didn't draw out. But when i was reviewing my PT for sessions i had played that day i saw this hand and wondered how the turn would have played had he just called my flop c-bet.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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zook
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A 13/10 called a 3bet with K3s? wtf
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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Originally Posted by zook
Fold pre-flop.
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Just in case you missed it, the game is 3 handed (that part of the HH i did NOT mess up  ), and i am in position.
As for 3betting vs. not 3betting, i can see how just calling PF gives us some decent options for extracting value postflop, and keeps us further ahead of his range. He is also a heavy multitabler, and may not even be aware that the game is only 3handed!
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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zook
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Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
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Originally Posted by zook
Fold pre-flop.
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Just in case you missed it, the game is 3 handed (that part of the HH i did NOT mess up ), and i am in position.
As for 3betting vs. not 3betting, i can see how just calling PF gives us some decent options for extracting value postflop, and keeps us further ahead of his range. He is also a heavy multitabler, and may not even be aware that the game is only 3handed! |
Yeah, I missed that. Still vs. a 13/10/5.1 an argument can be made that calling is better than 3betting. Depends on how lightly he'll call 3bets obv
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