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Iwind

02-07-2006, 08:47 PM Post subject: Just give up big bluffs?

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BB ($62.80)
UTG ($73.80)
MP ($27.80)
Hero ($50.20)
SB ($69.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, 6

.
UTG raises to $1.5, MP calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB raises to $5.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.75, MP calls $3.75, Hero calls $3.75.

Flop: ($21.50) 5

, 3

, K

(4 players)
SB bets $10, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $23, SB calls $13.

Turn: ($67.50) 8

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $21.95 (All-In), SB calls $21.95.

River: ($111.40) A

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $111.40

Results in white below:
Hero has 9s 6s (high card, ace).
SB has Jc Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins $111.40.

Preflop is pretty bad, just called since there were 3 people in the pot, but still it's bad. Anyways, should I just give up doing stuff like this? I mean, I'm doing it the same way I would with a set or two pair, but the two times I've tried this lately, with players that seem to be ok, they don't believe me. And being called should I just take the freecard on turn? I thought his call on flop was weak that's why I pushed turn, as well as the turn giving me a gutshot as well as a flush draw, 12 outs...and he did think a long time before calling. And I don't have a loose image or anything here. Would you call me down like he did here after you see his hand?

During my 10k hands at 5max 50NL I have done big bluffs like this two times, both times being called down, so I guess I should just stop?

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gabe

02-07-2006, 08:59 PM

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preflop is weird, flop is ok, but take the freecard on the turn. these plays are good against people that are weak, not fish that call with JJ

STIdrivr

02-07-2006, 09:01 PM

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I personally wouldnt of been able to call you down with JJ in this situation.

You want to try to bluff when you sense weakness. He
re-raised a raise that was called twice pre flop and came out betting strong on the flop, it doesnt look like he is going to give up this hand expecially at smaller stakes like this. But it is good to to have outs when you are trying to bluff, which you did.

Bmxicle

02-08-2006, 03:58 AM

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Very few opps will fold anything they have except tt-qq, but if you absolutely must play it that way just push the flop. Now that i see he wont even fold jj, its even worse.

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