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Old 09-18-2008, 08:44 AM     Post subject: JJ standard 100nl, call or fold riv? #1 (permalink)  
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UTGH minopens tons and is his standard 31/19. SB is a nit. hows my line? prob shud fold pre?

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UTG pitn ($209.78)
UTG+1 steef_79 ($92.88)
CO chippej ($95.03)
BTN Challe50 ($82.73)
SB givmild ($112.56)
BB Hero ($133.61)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB
pitn raises to $2, 3 folds, givmild raises to $8, Hero calls $7, pitn folds

Flop: ($18, 2 players)
givmild bets $15, Hero calls $15

Turn: ($48, 2 players)
givmild checks, Hero checks

River: ($48, 2 players)
givmild bets $25, $25 to Hero ($110.61)?
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:54 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Why fold pre? You have enough implied odds to setmine. Against a nit, without reads this is definitevely a river fold.
This really looks like QQ+ or TT trying to get some value.
With some reads that he folds big pairs on drawy boards, this could be a push, I think ...
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:10 PM #3 (permalink)  
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A push isn't really repping much imo, so I wouldn't recommend that.

But apart from that, I'd play preflop and flop the same. I'd bet turn for value (mostly protection) against overcards. As played river is often a fold against a true nit, but if he's kinda bad in any way I think you can call because of the betsize and snap off overcards enough of the time.
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problem is my hand range is face up as JJ and QQ, right?
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 i might fold pre, but u can justify a call by having position on the 3bettor...

fold river for sure
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His range is pretty top heavy here. If you are gonna float the flop then why not fire the turn to rep the FD coming in?

I also don't think call PF is bad, and I think river is a fold because a push here looks pretty FOS unless you think you are repping TT/55/44/77.
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Pre-flop: Standard
Flop: Fold, give the nit a mulligan
Turn: Meh, reasonable spot to bruff if you're going to put lots of money in on the river.
River: Fold
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:32 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i folded river yea

so when i call pre you reckon im set mining only?
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:33 AM #9 (permalink)  
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i folded river yea

so when i call pre you reckon im set mining only?
against a true nit yes, only other hands he could have are AK and maaaaybe AQ



and what fnord said


 
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i folded river yea

so when i call pre you reckon im set mining only?
against a true nit yes, only other hands he could have are AK and maaaaybe AQ



and what fnord said
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