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Old 01-16-2008, 11:21 PM     Post subject: JJ overpair in a pretty big pot #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is 60/21/1.14 over 90 hands. Calls everything preflop but not too crazy post-flop. Definately haven't seen him get his whole stack in yet. I've been aggressive in position against him and am starting to get the feeling he's a little irritated. He's starting to call a little lighter etc. He hasn't 3-bet me preflop yet but this might be the first time he's had a chance as well with me being on his direct left.

Is this a hero call or super standard call?


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Table Elsinore, 16 Jan 2008 10:58 PM ET

Seat 1: DonateMePLZ ($98.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Nalle-Maja ($187.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Pliiseraise ($157.45 in chips)
Seat 7: Galapogos [ J,J ] ($147.95 in chips)
Seat 10: cakr010097 ($207.15 in chips)

Antes/Blinds
Nalle-Maja posts blind ($0.50), Pliiseraise posts blind ($1).

Pre-Flop
Galapogos bets $4, cakr010097 folds, DonateMePLZ calls $4, Nalle-Maja folds, Pliiseraise bets $6, Galapogos calls $3, DonateMePLZ calls $3.

Flop [board cards 6,2,6 ]
Pliiseraise checks, Galapogos bets $15, DonateMePLZ folds, Pliiseraise bets $45, Galapogos calls $30.

Turn [board cards 6,2,6,9 ]
Pliiseraise bets $105.45 and is all-in, Galapogos


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Old 01-16-2008, 11:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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What the heck does he mini raise preflop here with? Probably 10s, Qs, Ks or As. Im folding the turn.
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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tough, I think this a fold myself
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pfr is 4 but u calling 3 to make 6
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:28 AM #4 (permalink)  
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ur decision is on the flop

looks like a fold
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:13 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 This is a very strong line from a donk. I fold the flop. I also reraise PF btw
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:40 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Opp bet 6 plus his blind = 7 - 4pfr from hero = 3 to call.

looks like QQ-AA given flop action. im not calling flop unless im happy about it and stack off on turn
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Old 01-17-2008, 12:36 PM #7 (permalink)  
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"Opp bet 6 plus his blind = 7 - 4pfr from hero = 3 to call."

lol- thx for that

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Old 01-17-2008, 03:07 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 I just really found this line so bluffy. Yeah he's a donk so of course he's not going to make smart bet sizes. The reason I decided to call is it was weird for him to give up once the flop comes after he has 3-bet preflop. Then suddenly he's interested again once the other guy folds and the flop is HU between him and myself. That's the main reason I decided this was more likely a bluff than a bad line with a good hand.

Does that sound like good reasning or was I just talking myself into having an excuse to call?


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Old 01-17-2008, 03:31 PM #9 (permalink)  
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What the heck does he mini raise preflop here with? Probably 10s, Qs, Ks or As. Im folding the flop.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:59 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 pretty standard flop fold against a passive donk. I also like the idea of a 4bet (if you can really call it that) pre since he only minraised.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:16 PM     Post subject: Re: JJ overpair in a pretty big pot #11 (permalink)  
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I've been aggressive in position against him and am starting to get the feeling he's a little irritated.
This is where you made your excuse to call. I just don't think it's a good one. You're giving him too much credit for good adjustment, without actually seeing any evidence of it, and then getting into a bad spot with a bad assumption based on adjustments he isn't making.
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