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Old 01-29-2006, 02:37 PM     Post subject: JJ no good? #1 (permalink)  
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No reads as I have recently sat down. I've been playing NLHE MTTs/SNGs recently so I almost instacalled this one... then i thought... What would most of you guys do in this spot?

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Button ($38.40)
Hero ($99)
BB ($26.90)
UTG ($39.95)
MP ($157.50)
CO ($212.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.5, BB raises to $27.9, UTG folds, CO folds, Hero ...
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Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
 
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Old 01-29-2006, 02:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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calls about 20BB AI with JJ every day and twice on sundays. and its sunday today!!

CALL
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Old 01-29-2006, 02:46 PM #3 (permalink)  
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He could have anything here, but without a read his likely hands are AK, AQ and AJ and AA-TT. Against TT you are way ahead, against AJ you are ahead, against AQ and AK you are sligtly ahead, against AA, KK and QQ you are way behind. I think I fold, but I think the decision is close - I might be wrong though.

With QQ I call, because I'm ahead enough times against shortstacks to make a call profitable.
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Old 01-29-2006, 03:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Looks like the dead money in the pot makes this a call, even against the tightest range....


626,703,264 games 0.812 secs 771,802,049 games/sec
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 48.4321 % 47.38% 01.05% { 99+, AJo+ }
Hand 2: 51.5679 % 50.51% 01.05% { JJ }


503,417,376 games 0.656 secs 767,404,536 games/sec

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 54.3001 % 53.12% 01.18% { TT+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 45.6999 % 44.52% 01.18% { JJ }


626,703,264 games 0.812 secs 771,802,049 games/sec

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 47.2732 % 46.28% 00.99% { 88+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 52.7268 % 51.74% 00.99% { JJ }


441,774,432 games 0.609 secs 725,409,576 games/sec

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 52.4216 % 51.10% 01.32% { 99+, AKo }
Hand 2: 47.5784 % 46.26% 01.32% { JJ }


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Old 01-29-2006, 04:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Looks like the dead money in the pot makes this a call, even against the tightest range....
If I counted correctly, dead money = $2
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Hero's $4.50 also
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Old 01-29-2006, 04:31 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I see 66+ making this play all the time.
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Old 01-29-2006, 05:58 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 omfg call!
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:22 PM #9 (permalink)  

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I don't see 66+ doing this at the 6-max 25NL on Stars. Very similar situation wth me yesterday, but I had QQ. I instacalled and lost to KK. I still consider it correct but marginal, JJ I would consider even more marginal at the tables I am playing. I could easily believe it happens more at slightly higher limits, I think most of the people in my fish tank don't even know what dead money is...
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These low buy-in guys love to wait for you to juice the pot and put you to the test with the all-in. To be honest I will coin-flip them all day long as I hate short-stacks and want them off the table so I can play deep money. I had a 30bb all-in the other day against my raise and I called with 88 to see him flip 55. Was maybe a little crazy there but I like my bets respected and Im not folding Jacks here. Call.
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