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gabe
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12-26-2006, 05:04 PM
Post subject: JJ on KKK board 3/6
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no read, ive been reasonably tight. i left some money on the table..thoughts?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($785.85)
CO ($874.20)
Hero ($656)
SB ($573)
BB ($1302.20)
UTG ($409.80)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J , J .
3 folds, Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, BB calls $12.
Flop: ($39) K , K , K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB raises to $60, Hero raises to $174, BB calls $114.
Turn: ($387) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $150, Hero calls $150.
River: ($687) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $180, Hero calls $180.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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If he was beating you i think he'd bet all in on the river.
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aislephive
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I think you could bet more on the turn/river to get all in, you didn't leave much but you definitely could've pushed the river and gotten a call, just a little bit more value.
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Irisheyes
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Why cant he have AA - QQ more often then TT-22 in this spot?
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Genitruc
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doesn t seem particularly bad. will he really ship it to you w 1010?
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Miffed22001
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turn and river look defensive. If you raise i dont think opp is calling anymore. If you minraise the turn or something and bet a showdownable value on river you might get a call but you'd need to be seriously doing some bluffing/aggro play to get called by a worse hand if you go for a big raise on the later streets surely?
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Renton
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seems like the only way to play it
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Why cant he have AA - QQ more often then TT-22 in this spot?
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Math.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Why cant he have AA - QQ more often then TT-22 in this spot?
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Math.
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Are you sure you are weighting your math based on the amount of action we are getting, especially preflop, and the (limited) read supplied by Gabe in the OP?
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Warpe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Why cant he have AA - QQ more often then TT-22 in this spot?
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Originally Posted by gabe
Preflop: Hero is Button with J  , J  .
3 folds, Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, BB calls $12.
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gabe
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so are you guys saying to stick the rest in on the river? the guy seems pretty happy to get all the money in, but who knows because i dont recognize the guy
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by gabe
so are you guys saying to stick the rest in on the river? the guy seems pretty happy to get all the money in, but who knows because i dont recognize the guy
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Are <1/2 PSBets common at these stakes? He looks pretty weak to me.
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Irisheyes
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Oh shit my bad. ty Warpe.
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benny999
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you have a better hand then he probably expects, and the best street to raise is probably the river, so just raise it and if he folds, oh well you'll get paid later.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by gabe
so are you guys saying to stick the rest in on the river?
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I would.
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bdawg56kg
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Why 3bet flop? It makes it tough for smaller PP's to stay in. As played I'd probably push river since it's not too much more and he'll be getting sick odds with 99/TT.
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