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Old 05-02-2007, 11:31 PM     Post subject: JJ 3bet pot, turn decision. #1 (permalink)  
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $356.50
Hero: $569.10
SB: $420.30
BB: $400.00

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $16, SB raises to $48, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3 4 2 ($100, 2 players)
SB bets $76, Hero calls.

Turn: T ($252, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero ????????
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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tough spot given board

i usually check, but if another scary card comes out on river i would push if checked to
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:23 AM #3 (permalink)  
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tough spot given board

i usually check, but if another scary card comes out on river i would push if checked to
Hero checks.

River: A ($252, 2 players)
SB bets $100, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $100 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $252


Easy fold right?

I thought maybe my turn check was brutal...
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this is std, but i usually shove flop with my image and expect to get called by worse enough to make it optimal...
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 If villain is a "thinking" player :

No reason for you to be playing suited cards in a reraised pot (esp no reason you'd play something like AQs passively on the flop) so he either has :

-a big pair with a diamond that won't be scared of the river and wants to let you hang yourself

-crap

So it seems to me the best thing to do is to check behind and call a bet if it feels right on a non-diamond river. he'll suck out about 8-9% of the time (less than usual since big diamonds aren't in his range... unless he just made a flush) but I think it's the optimal play.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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