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Old 05-21-2009, 09:36 AM     Post subject: JJ 3bet pot OOP on K high board #1 (permalink)  
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Villain 27/27 over 11 hands, so basically no info.
My reasoning;
- Flop: I'm rarely getting called by worse if I'm cbetting, so I check MP/UP a lot on these dry boards. I'm often cbetting 2tone or more drawy boards with them. Is that reverse thinking?
- Turn: Villains flop check behind is often a pair, so I'm betting for value. His call says 9x-Kx to me, maybe some diamond SC's.
- River: I'm not beating that much anymore so a valuebet seems too thin. Villain bets small, but I have no info on what that means. I'd give villain a range of TT,QQ,Kx, but maybe I'm too nitty ?

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Hero ($27.40)
BB ($22.50)
UTG ($38.20)
CO ($24)
BTN ($25.25)

Dealt to Hero JJ
fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, call,

FLOP ($5.25) 59K
check, check,

TURN ($5.25) 59K6
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50,

RIVER ($12.25) 59K6T
check, BTN bets $4.50, Hero folds,
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:52 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I look him up, hes repping not much but a luckboxed TT/QJ or a very weird QQ
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If u think his range contains like Sc's/Kx-9x/ diamonds and stuff on turn. Doesn't that mean his range contains alot of Like mid pair type hands aswell... which will most likely float a flop bet.? I think alot of worse hands call a c-bet, I don't like checking this flop.
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surely we're good here 33% of the time, right? i call.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:21 PM #6 (permalink)  
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b/f $7ish on river

as played, I c/c for sure. Once he checks back flop I don't really put many Kx in his range, so who knows what he's tryin to rep with this sizing.
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:54 PM #8 (permalink)  
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You guys like the idea of checking these dry flops with MP/UP, but cbet the drawier ones?

I guess odds are good enough. It's just that "hes repping not much but a luckboxed TT/QJ or a very weird QQ" seems to be just those hands a lot.
On the other hand my line screams "weak hand" so indeed who knows what his range is, although this betsize isn't really bluffy.
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