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Old 03-16-2009, 06:25 AM     Post subject: JJ 3bet pot line check - $1/$2 #1 (permalink)  
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I have absolutely no reads on villain.

If he has any stats on me, they would probably be something like 24/20 taggish stats.

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BB ($203)
UTG ($453.95)
Hero (Button) ($253.10)
SB ($331.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
UTG bets $6, Hero raises $18, 2 folds, UTG calls $12

Flop: ($39) 4, 5, 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $24, UTG calls $24

Turn: ($87) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($87) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $66

I didn't think I could get three streets of value here too often.
Anyone like my line?
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:18 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I would definitely bet/fold each street though. granted his range of hands are really small to get value from but we are comfortably ahead. I dont think he will bet into us on river much either since he didnt bet flop so ill just go ahead and bet turn. If we get c/r'd anywhere then fold.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:46 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah, I used to worry about spots like this, but I just bet/bet/bet until given a reason otherwise now.
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Old 03-16-2009, 03:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yup, bet the turn, he most likely hit a pair on that board.
BTW, what do you do if villain 4bets you?
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:56 PM #5 (permalink)  
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call pre
as played check flop
as played yeah
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:21 AM #6 (permalink)  
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call pre
as played check flop
as played yeah
Call pre, really? It's CO vs BTN (4handed)

Check flop? What else are we checking here in 3bet pots?

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Yup, bet the turn, he most likely hit a pair on that board.
BTW, what do you do if villain 4bets you?
5-bet jam because its CO vs BTN and 4-handed I guess.
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:49 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd play it same up to flop. If I think there's another street of value i'd rather put it in on the turn instead of the river.
 
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:39 AM #8 (permalink)  
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erm sorry i didn't see it was 4 handed, disregard pretty much my whole thing
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:42 AM #9 (permalink)  
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we're getting value from 66/88/99 here, half pot turn&riv is decent.
i think most people cr shove QQ on this flop in villains spot.

calling or 3betting JJ here can depend on frequency of 3bets from blinds..
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:59 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Yup, bet the turn, he most likely hit a pair on that board.
BTW, what do you do if villain 4bets you?
5-bet jam because its CO vs BTN and 4-handed I guess.[/quote]
Don't you prefer to have some reads before you do this? Without reads I would do this with QQ+,AK+
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:14 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:20 PM #12 (permalink)  
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oh god that turn check is atrocious

i like your flop bet sizing though
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:31 PM #13 (permalink)  
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oh god that turn check is atrocious

i like your flop bet sizing though
So if you bet the turn, are you betting the river again or checking behind?
What's a good bet size on the turn?
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:57 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Yup, bet the turn, he most likely hit a pair on that board.
BTW, what do you do if villain 4bets you?
5-bet jam because its CO vs BTN and 4-handed I guess.
Don't you prefer to have some reads before you do this? Without reads I would do this with QQ+,AK+[/quote]
even 6 handed thats pretty nitty, let alone 4 handed.
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