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thizzSantaCruz
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03-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Post subject: Jacks in a tough spot
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Full House
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Villain at the time was an unkown and had just sat down.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($45.25)
CO ($70.75)
Hero ($54.50)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($50)
UTG ($31.70)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J , J .
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.25, CO calls $2.25.
Flop: ($11.50) 7 , 2 , 7 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $6, SB folds, UTG folds, CO calls $6.
Turn: ($23.50) 9 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.
River: ($23.50) 8 (2 players)
CO bets $16, Hero wants to call but when he thinks about it what does he beat?
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Andypandy
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Straight
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U beat a pair of 3', 4', 5's, 6's and 10' s along with something retarded like overcards or A2.
U have underrepped ur hand by betting weak on flop and checking turn so calling can't be that bad. I would, but expect to be beat a decent amount of the time.
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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He just sat down or you just sat down? Because he has $70. Anyway with no reads on him post-flop a fold isn't bad because so many guys saw the flop, someone had to hit it, and this bet reeks of value. That being said, I still probably call because he's unknown and I see too many unknowns float with garbage PPs and overcards.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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BigLRIP
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Straight
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I would've bet more on the flop, like $9 and then made a commiting bet on the turn. He can definately have more than a 7 here, so I call.
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mixchange
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4-of-a-Kind
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bigger flop bet, bet turn... shut downto aggro river
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larsmars
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3-of-a-Kind
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Turn check is ok, by betting turn you are more or less just folding out everything you beat.
It makes absolutely no sense for him to have anything you beat on the river, but then again unknowns are pretty bad. Meh, probably fold.
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Alexos
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at least 8$ on flop, turn check is fine
as played prob fold river
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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you beat TT!
if you have no idea of villain's bluffing frequencies I don't think a call is terrrrible but folding is probably slightly better.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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btw I'm not sure if this is a call with JJ that it's a call with AA
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Marshall28
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Full House
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oh wow when i first looked at this hand i didnt realize how small the flop bet actually was.
on 2nd look ... because of the fact that your flop bet was so small your hand is actually under represented which emans he can be valuing smaller pairs like 33-66 + TT. for that reason I call, plus he could just be an idiot. either way, you will be getting valuable information w/ a call.
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Marshall28
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Full House
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and c/b (CHECK BEHIND) on turn is absolutely standard. dont ever bet turn unless you think villain thinks you are super bluffy and he calls you without hesitation (a hesitation generally means he was considering raising or possibly folding, an instant call means he knew he was gonna call any bet since he thinks u bluff too much) ... this is how i can get 3 streets of value from any pr in these situations and know im good ... just that basic timing tell and understanding villain is frustrated.
but like i said before ... flop bet under reps your hand so makes river a much easier call than i first suspected
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