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Ash256

04-09-2007, 10:53 PM Post subject: Jacks 'n' Bitches

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1) Firstly, how's my line here? I was afraid of PickPocket being a smartass preflop with QQ-AA, but I felt he had to throw out some kind of bet on the flop if he had them - he was a decent TAG and the other two were fish. I checked because I felt that only better hands would call if I bet out.

GAME #523816328: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 09-Apr-2007 22:44:08
Table "TURBO" Versailles
Seat 1: PickPocket89 ($93.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Jeffouille ($32.25 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: Harness ($66.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Resistance ($37.05 in chips)
Seat 8: baktius66 ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 10: Zenity ($1.50 in chips)
Harness: Post SB $0.25
Resistance: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Resistance [:Js: :Jd:]
2 folds
PickPocket89: Raise $2.00
Jeffouille: Call $2.00
Harness: Call $1.75
Resistance: Raise $9.00
PickPocket89: Call $7.50
Jeffouille: Call $7.50
Harness: Call $7.50
*** FLOP *** [

]
Harness: Check
Resistance: Check
PickPocket89: Check
Jeffouille: Allin $22.75
Harness: Fold
Resistance: Allin $27.55

2) This was quite an awkward spot, I couldn't see many worse hands making this check-raise (Apart from maybe a pissed off AT), and I figured that I was either a wee bit ahead or way behind, which isn't a great place to be, but still, I'd only been there an orbit so he could be an idiot who goes crazyspewy with top pair, I didn't know.

GAME #523855876: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 09-Apr-2007 23:26:46
Table Kingsburgh
Seat 1: Resistance ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 5: RA75 ($67.00 in chips)
Seat 6: drews11 ($46.45 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: Joogibear ($36.93 in chips)
Seat 10: Mjee ($98.45 in chips)
Joogibear: Post SB $0.25
Mjee: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Resistance [:Qh: :Qc:]
Resistance: Raise $2.00
2 folds
Joogibear: Call $1.75
Mjee: Fold
*** FLOP *** [:Td:

]
Joogibear: Check
Resistance: Bet $3.50
Joogibear: Raise $14.00

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04-09-2007, 11:00 PM

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Hand 1: you probably have to fold with so many people behind you.

Hand 2: Easy push

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04-09-2007, 11:32 PM

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Hand 1: you probably have to fold with so many people behind you.

Are you joking? He has a $37 stack and just put in almost a 1/3rd of it. Not only that but this board is the most harmless that could possibly come. LOL easy easy call.

Hand 2: meh its just one of those marginal spots where either one is good. I'm fine with push or fold but prob push better.

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04-10-2007, 12:01 AM

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#1: push. fish love slowplaying trips.

#2 kinda read dependant, without an image yet and no reads you could prob push to flip, folding wouldn´t be bad either. why are you sitting with less than 60bb there?

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04-10-2007, 12:54 AM

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I push both.

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04-10-2007, 01:30 PM

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That second one - he is either check/raising to get a call/raise or to get a fold. What on earth does he think calls his raise? Only a monster or an OESFD - I guess it comes down to whether an overpair fits into the monster category.

If he has, say, two pair, then playing this way does allow him to at least tale a cbet off you when you may have folded had he led out with a psb, and gives you bad odds with any single draw. He might have JJ here; he might have KK/AA I guess.

I think you're ahead quite a lot of the time, but it's how far ahead that's the question. - a lot of the hands you beat have a good chance of catching up and it's enough to skew how ahead you are.

On the plus side, I don't know if anyone could really criticise anything you do here

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04-10-2007, 05:00 PM

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I think both are close. Unless you have a read that any of the aggressors here bluff with some frequency (and at this level, I assume the opposite) there is a very real chance you are beat.

Hand 1, he could have 77-88,TT, or a 4(!?) or 44/9x. QQ-AA seem quite unlikley, but people have been known to screw these up pre-flop. In any case, he thinks he's ahead. Since your hand looks like an overpair, the pairs <9 seem not real likely. Basically, you beat TT. I don't think the "slow playing" 9 factors here because the pot is so big. I think you have to call given the pot odds.

Hand 2, I think he has 2pair or straight or set. AT/JJ is the only hand you beat. Again, all bets are off if you think he is just trying to float you off your c-bet, or you have seem him play a draw fast. I would expect a m/r if he's calling bs, though.

Again, you are so short, you cannot fold.

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04-10-2007, 05:09 PM

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i dont think u can fold the first one. if he called pre with a bare 9 then he is giving away money.

second gotta push

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04-10-2007, 09:45 PM

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04-11-2007, 05:32 PM

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Thanks for the responses guys.

Hand 1, everyone else folded and my opponent showed me ATo.
Hand 2, I got brainfreeze and mucked.

I'm buying in less than full for several reasons:

- I have a $750 bankroll, and the site I'm at (Which i can't change from for a few weeks) has 20NL not 25NL, so I'm either playing with 38 buyins at 20NL or playing with 25 buyins and buying in for $30 at 50NL.
- I need time to adjust to the people who are able to play poker there, they didn't exist at 20NL.
- I'm a student, I'm not willing to take big risks seeing as I have 3x as much money in my bankroll as I have in my bank account.
- 20NL is boring and mindnumbing and I want a new challenge.

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04-11-2007, 06:39 PM

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hand1: close but I think i would usually stick it in. He has T9, 98, 44 a lot tho so I dont hate a fold.

Hand 2: stick it in

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