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AnTman_69
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07-23-2008, 08:43 AM
Post subject: Jacks caught in the middle of nowhere.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (6 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($33.49)
UTG ($13.61)
Hero ($35.02)
CO ($24.30)
Button ($30.70)
SB ($24.49)
Preflop: Hero is MP with J , J .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Button raises to $2.9, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.05.
Flop: ($6.15) 2 , T , 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero calls $4.
Turn: ($14.15) T (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
River: ($14.15) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, Button folds.
Final Pot: $14.15
Is this retarded...some advice peoples. I don't run a hud. But he's a standard 25 nl tag.
I wasn't sure what to do on all streets. A c/r seemed bad. So i decide to play passive, and possibly fold to a turn barrel.
Is this a 4 bet pre? And how would you play all streets.
My river bet was a blocking bet. lol.
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Fnord
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I'd fold pre-flop.
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AnTman_69
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I never even thought of folding. Playing jacks out of position against a half decent player..not a good idea. Nice advice.
As played...what to do.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by AnTman_69
Playing jacks out of position against an opponent who probably has a nitty 3-bet range..not a good idea.
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FYP
The funny thing is that against most of the field at 400NL+ you're good way too often to fold.
I think you played post-flop just fine. If lots of money goes into the pot he's fucking retarded or you're way behind.
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freechus9
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I think folding JJ pre is sickeningly weak-tight. We have set value against his 3bet, and JJ plays quite well post-flop. This hand is a perfect example of how we can never fold pre in this spot against this opp..his range isn't just QQ-AA, and when we hit an all unders flop we can make a decent chunk of change.
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griffey24
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Where in OP does it say villain is nitty etc?
Maybe this can be a lower limits vs higher limits thing, but folding JJ to a button 3-bet seems super nitty. I think you played it fine, and I might c/c river instead of leading. If I was gonna lead, it would be for value and I'd bet a bit bigger.
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