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Vi-Zer0Skill

08-31-2007, 03:33 AM Post subject: J-J 200NL very interesting river spot

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This is a really strange spot i realized i had ended up in. I had honestly misread the board when i bet this river, but once i realized what i had done, i also recognized that it was probably the best play i could have made. My thinking is that most made hands he calls the turn bet with are ahead of my Jacks. But unless he was drawing to a flush, the river card is going to be scary to him. Am i wrong?

Villain is 22/20 over 50 hands. Hasn't done anything unusual.

Hero: ($407.10 in chips)
Villain: ($248.35 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jh Jc]
1 fold
Villain: raises $6 to $8
3 folds
Hero: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [3h Td 5h]
Hero: checks
Villain: bets $14
Hero: raises $36 to $50
Villain: calls $36
*** TURN *** [3h Td 5h] [2c]
Hero: bets $84
Villain: calls $84
*** RIVER *** [3h Td 5h 2c] [8h]
Hero: bets $108 (covers villain)

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bode

08-31-2007, 04:04 AM

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whats he flat calling the turn with on a drawy board that beats your JJ? His line is really messed up, and i think he shows up with 77-99ish hands because your line looks like a FD. That being said, hes probably folding the river with the third heart coming in.

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08-31-2007, 04:38 AM

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I can't see a set just calling the turn. I don't know what two pair he might have and an overpair is possible but unlikely.
I guess he could have Ah4h or 6h4h, he might not have wanted to shove the flop.

Could he be calling down with AT? I don't know what this fucker has.

Miffed22001

08-31-2007, 04:58 AM

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tp/fd combo type thing.
Considering hes gone super passive and not tried to get it all in i think he has you beaten or else hes a bad 22/20 who has called it down here with some pair which looks too unlikely.

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08-31-2007, 06:52 AM

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if your going to c/c the river, then your bet is good. I may just c/f the river though.

The way you played it ain't bad, though.

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Vi-Zer0Skill

09-01-2007, 09:18 PM

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His calling range on the turn:
10-x
3-3
5-5
10-10
Q-Q+
Flush draws.

I feel made hands that beat me make up ~1/2 of his range, made hands i beat ~1/4th of his range, and draws that came in make up the rest. I think he will fold all hands other than a made draw almost always, and therefore i am folding out probably 3/4ths of his range, most which is ahead of me by the river.

If he is holding a drawing hand on the turn more than 33% of the time, then check/folding river is probably best. I just don't think villain would flat call the turn with a draw nearly as often as he would shove.

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09-01-2007, 09:20 PM

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c/f river

i like flop/turn play

3bet preflop

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09-01-2007, 10:13 PM

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c/f river, unless he bets small.

You beat a T and thats a signifcant part of his range however he doesnt call a bet enough to warrant betting and getting owned by a flush.

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