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meeloche
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04-05-2008, 07:56 PM
Post subject: its a tarp?
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Villain is 30/0 station
I don't know how he got his stack.
I have been playing aggro.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($194)
MP ($115.55)
CO ($319.15)
Button ($331.60)
Hero ($442.60)
BB ($231)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , K .
1 fold, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, MP folds, CO calls $10.
Flop: ($28) 5 , J , 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, CO calls $20.
Turn: ($68) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $42, CO calls $42.
River: ($152) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $220 with (20ish left), Hero?
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Numbr2intheWorld
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releases hand easily
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griffey24
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I mean.. you shooould fold here (I can't see this ever ever being a bluff).. but damn those pot odds are lookin good.
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Alexos
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pot odds arent good, u need like 20-1 here
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meeloche
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Originally Posted by griffey24
I mean.. you shooould fold here (I can't see this ever ever being a bluff).. but damn those pot odds are lookin good.
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This is why I posted it. I've already put in 184, I have to put in 110 more into a 480 pot, this is close isn't it?
I can't check the turn or river imo cause this guy is going to give me 3 streets of value with a ton of his range but now I'm kinda fucked so I wasn't sure if I could fold given the potsize and the odds it was giving me. (He still is a donk even if he's a 31/0)
He has to raise the turn with all his flushes no?
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wufwugy
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Originally Posted by meeloche
He has to raise the turn with all his flushes no?
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not this guy
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Deanglow
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He has to raise the turn with all his flushes no?
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No and fold the river
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Marshall28
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love the way you played it vs this particular opponent as long as u folded the river.
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Marshall28
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id actually even recommend larger bets on the flop and turn .. hes not folding to 28 if hes calling 20, and hes not folding to 60 if hes calling 48.
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Deanglow
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
id actually even recommend larger bets on the flop and turn .. hes not folding to 28 if hes calling 20, and hes not folding to 60 if hes calling 48.
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Does that mean you want to push river?
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will641
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
id actually even recommend larger bets on the flop and turn .. hes not folding to 28 if hes calling 20, and hes not folding to 60 if hes calling 48.
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Does that mean you want to push river?
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are you saying making bet sizes larger is bad deanglow? cause i think its optimal, because as described by op hes a 30/0 passive fish who will guaranteed stack with TP. i dont think going $24 into $28, $64 into $76, and i guess that sets up a good pot sized shove on river.
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Deanglow
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Yeah I would bet more on the flop and turn so I could just pot size shove the river.
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Galapogos
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Yeah betting larger on earlier streets is better so you can shove the river.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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wufwugy
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i like varying bet sizes for all situations, but i tend to agree that larger is better here
however, betting smaller may gain more value if the flop is something like J93 instead of J53 because we should get more value out of a 9 that way.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
id actually even recommend larger bets on the flop and turn .. hes not folding to 28 if hes calling 20, and hes not folding to 60 if hes calling 48.
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Yeah, when I'm in total value gear I like to bet closer to full pot and even over-bet the pot. Particularly pre-flop (so my later bets suck him in with a wider range and hopefully I don't have to play difficult rivers.)
That said, he's playing lots of hands, pay attention to what you can and can't get away with against him.
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