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Old 02-03-2010, 01:19 PM     Post subject: I turn a set deep in a 3bet pot - 50nl rushaments #1 (permalink)  
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- Rush, so reads are very weak.
- Button was playing a 27.something stack for a while and has only one seat
- No idea about BB, but I can´t remember playing him at regular 50nl 6max, so he´s likely not a (high volume-) regnit at these stakes.

- PF is not great, but I guess I can turn a small profit, having a fairly weak range behind me and position on the strong range.
- Flop spew y/n? I can safely fold to a raise, don´t think the BTN has much beside TT/33 anyway that would take on the K I´m repping and I put pressure on BBs QQ/JJ
- Turn bet small to keep QQ/JJ chasing their gutter? Bet even smaller for that purpose? B/f vs b/c?
- Snap off river, his line makes so little sense? What can he possibly value bet apart from QsJs/AsQs/(AsJs), what could be left that pulls off a desperate bluff?

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($23.85)
Hero ($90.95)
CO ($83.65)
BTN ($233.90)
SB ($83.95)
BB ($88.70)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $7.25, Hero calls $5.50, BTN calls $5.50

Flop: ($22, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BTN folds, BB calls $14

Turn: ($50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB calls $24

River: ($98, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $43.45
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:05 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hmmm I'd probably just bet bigger on the turn. Most of his hands now have pairs+gutters. I might even ship this turn pretty often.
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bigger on turn and i can't see anything but calling river.
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 Flop seems bad, the idea of betting wouldn't even occur to me. I wouldn't fold river without reads but I don't exactly expect to be ahead very often.
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 check flop..

im folding river pretty often in this spot if he bets bigger, I don't think they are ever bluffing with their muffins with a line like this.

But here its a lol-pot-odds call although not overly happy about it. edit: prolly still a fold actually
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edit: prolly still a fold actually
You wouldn't believe the kind of hands unknowns show down at these stakes. It's a 3bet pot, we have a set, villain is repping the runner flush with a strange line. We need to be good 24%.

We certainly don't want to take this line with our hand if we are planning to fold on a spade river.
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P4s/Alexos: I dont get it.

Do you think we are strong enough to check this flop? I could be way off as usual, but doesn´t checking give him exactly the one-street-less poker he´s looking for when he checks here oop? Isn´t like one third of the deck making our hand a trivial fold vs any bet and even on a blank turn/river we still can´t confidently call big bets? Or does the presence of the button make this a check?
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XTR, I think their point is that this is a bad flop to rep any kind of hand and most half-decent regs aren't giving up in this spot (if they had air they would simply b/fold it). This is usually something like JJ/QQ that is trying to get to showdown a bit cheaper but is never just c/folding here since you have very few Ks in your range. On the river I think he can show up with AA + random nl 50 stuff like AQ/AJ/AK enough that it's a call. We're obviously not thrilled about it though.
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