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donkbee
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07-12-2010, 08:03 PM
Post subject: I squeeze with AQs and they both call (50NL PS)
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Villain was running 25/20. He seemed like a pretty normal TAGG reg over the 80 hands I'd played with him so far. The only big pot I saw him win was when he raise/called preflop with 77 and then raised a flop cbet when he hit a set.
SB was a fish playing 43/12.
What's my plan on this turn? He has 63.50 behind.
No-Limit Hold'em, 0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP (81)
Button (50)
SB (61)
Hero (BB) (106.60)
UTG (50.75)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , A
1 fold, MP bets 1.50, 1 fold, SB calls 1.25, Hero raises 6, MP calls 5, SB calls 5
Flop: (19.50) K , 5, 10 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 11, MP calls 11, 1 fold
Turn: (41.50) K (2 players)
Hero ?
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leftygrove
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Two Pair
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Ugh terrible spot. I promise that I'm an aggro spewtard, but I think c/f might be best depending on his sizing.
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caddie444
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Well you should either be c/f'ing or shoving I prefer c/f
Edit: didn't notice stack sizes I guess you could b/f but I still prefer c/f
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sauce123
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shove alwyas always
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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caddie444
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sauce123
shove alwyas always
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Even with those stacks??
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sauce123
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i might be jaded my high stakes where ppl are really wide preflop
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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sauce123
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ok sry real answer now was 6tbling
hard to know without good preflop reads
but i mean if u bet 11 on the flop its typically to get hands as strong as KQ to fold by the river. if that seems unlikely then just c/f flop
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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sauce123
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also with stacks dotn shove, i like something like 14/fold and then we get a timing tell on whether to jam ourselves on river or whether to c/c or c/f
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Outlaw
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How often does he just flat a K on that board in a 3-bet pot? Is bet-folding 15 unreasonable here?
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nutsinho
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i would bet 16.25 dont really see another option
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Da GOAT
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nobody just c/f flop?
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Alexos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
nobody just c/f flop?
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this flop should hit our range pretty hard, plus we have good equity and quite a few good turn cards to barrel on.
c/f an 789 flop but def not this one
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Da GOAT
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my assumption was im expecting to get called alot on flop and im not gonna follow up with a turn barrel esp with stacks likely in on turn. the flop hits there range a fair amount too.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Fnord
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Too much equity to feel good about a c/f here unless he's a pretty big nit. Even then, you might get him off Aces 
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Numbr2intheWorld
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His range is probably weaker than you think
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Da GOAT
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thx guys, spot ill look at.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Fnord
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With the fish being in the pot, he should be giving you more credit for a hand here.
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grindinginnj
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I would c/f here, what kind of hands do u think he has here that he called a 3 bet, and called flop bet.AA,AK,1010,QQ,JJ. Am i missing something.
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Renton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grindinginnj
I would c/f here, what kind of hands do u think he has here that he called a 3 bet, and called flop bet.AA,AK,1010,QQ,JJ. Am i missing something.
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That she has like 30% equity.
Courtie, I like the way you played it up to this point (I might have bet like a dollar less on the flop), and now I'd bet call for some amount.
Nutsinho says 16.25 meaning that is probably perfect amount to bet, so I will go with that. I'm guessing his thoughts are that any bet is more likely to get called than shoved on, so we should choose the smallest possible bet that will hopefully accomplish all of 1) some better hands folding, 2) giving us a cheap price to see the river, and 3) potentially having the option to bluff shove the river if we miss (or c/c a bluff shove, lol).
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Pioneer
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Seems like an easy Check-Bomb flop if MP bets and SB folds. (If fish calls then over-call)
SPR will be 2.1 if MP bets 1/2 pot (MP only had $80) and you have +- 33% equity vs. his calling range so you need him to fold 20-25% of the time he bets to your shove.
If it gets checked through a free card is good for you and you can BF most turns 6/10 pot (Only need 30% FE with your GS & no implied odds or counting Ace as outs and I'm sure you have at least that after their flop check has weakened their ranges.) On this particular turn though I would probably call if SB bet, if SB checked I would CC/C-BOMB MP's bet depending...
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