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Old 11-30-2007, 11:51 PM     Post subject: I spew bad I think... #1 (permalink)  
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 So I just moved up so I thought it would be a good idea to spew some buyings.
Are these as bad as I think?

Hand 1 Villain is 36/11 over small sample.

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Hero ($50)
BB ($47.75)
UTG ($25.05)
MP ($18.25)
CO ($58.90)
Button ($91)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
2 folds, CO raises to $2.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, CO calls $4.50.

Flop: ($14.50) K, 6, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, CO calls $11.

Turn: ($36.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($36.50) T (2 players)
Hero bets $17

Hand 2:
This is purely as a bluff post flop all players in hand are bad who play to many hands. I don't have any of them as stations mostly weak passive who play like 40+ % of hands.

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MP ($36.65)
Hero ($63.05)
Button ($44.85)
SB ($14.45)
BB ($49.10)
UTG ($36.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $5, SB calls $4.75, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $3.50.

Flop: ($21) , , (4 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $14

Hand 3 Villain is 62/10 over small sample I don't think he's any good

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SB ($49.50)
BB ($119.40)
Hero ($59.35)
MP ($52.75)
Button ($54.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, BB raises to $3.5, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($7.25) , , (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero raises to $22, BB calls $14.

Turn: ($51.25) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($51.25) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $33.85 (All-In)
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 hand 1: definitely 3 bet harder. you are oop, so make it 9 or 10. and i would probably just check the river, because he either has a king, or some mid pp.

hand 2: definitely not spew. you have to c bet that. in fact, i bet harder, if they are as weak tight as you say.

hand 3: i like everything up to the river. with that min 3 bet it could be a lot of things, and that guy is a total donk running at 62/10. if you think he will call with Ace high then i would shove, but otherwise i would just check behind. im sure a lot of other ppl will lol at me for saying that, but oh well.
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 1). 3bet size is fine, as played i would c/f the river. Unless you are going to be going all in on the turn for value, betting the flop here with Q-Q is worse than checking.

2). Interesting spot. I guess it depends on how lightly you think these players will get in on the flop with that determines whether check/folding or bet/calling is best. Bluffing in 4 way pots (particularly reraised ones) is pretty much always bad play.

3). Call the flop, fold to a turn bet. By raising the flop you are turning your hand that has showdown value into a bluff. River shove seems best once you have raised the flop, gotten called, and been checked to on two streets.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:03 PM #4 (permalink)  
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3). Call the flop, fold to a turn bet. By raising the flop you are turning your hand that has showdown value into a bluff. River shove seems best once you have raised the flop, gotten called, and been checked to on two streets.
we raise the flop to protect our hand. TT is ahead way too much against a 62/10 here.
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3). Call the flop, fold to a turn bet. By raising the flop you are turning your hand that has showdown value into a bluff. River shove seems best once you have raised the flop, gotten called, and been checked to on two streets.
we raise the flop to protect our hand. TT is ahead way too much against a 62/10 here.
not one that has a fairly tight PFR and min3bet pre
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 1: Fine, now c/f river..

2: Such a nasty spot with 4 people in a reraised pot. I'd just try to get to showdown cheap.. your hand is strong but there's such a risk to get schooled here.

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3). Call the flop, fold to a turn bet. By raising the flop you are turning your hand that has showdown value into a bluff. River shove seems best once you have raised the flop, gotten called, and been checked to on two streets.
we raise the flop to protect our hand. TT is ahead way too much against a 62/10 here.
Not really when he minraised preflop.. depends on his tendencies but I'd be suspicious and I don't understand the point of the flop raise either..
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