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Old 03-01-2007, 03:03 AM     Post subject: I raised, I caught a piece.. but facing aggression #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1:

-villain is 34/9/2
-Villain had check raised my last contination bet, so I thought I'd look him up here on the flop. no other reads.


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $118
Hero: $125.75
Button: $48
SB: $135
BB: $140.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with
UTG folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.5, BB raises to $13, Hero calls.

Turn: ($34.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB raises to $48, Hero ??

Hand 2:

-this table was playing VERY tight, and I started raising very light the last few hands to loosen things up
-limpers were somewhat donkish
- BB is 22/3/1.8 over only 100 hands and has been shorty for a while
- CO is 67/20/2 over the last 60 or so hands and
- This is a marginal decision, but do I need to call the flop push because of pot odds? or do I fold here due to reverse implied odds, given that I could be behind BB or CO even if I hit?
(note: I would call this push if it was just me and BB, but not sure what to do with CO calling the bet and raise)


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.50
CO: $143.90
Hero: $91.50
SB: $98.25
BB: $18.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with
UTG folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $4, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: ($12.5, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $8.75, BB raises all-in $14.5, CO calls, Hero ??
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:58 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 is tough kinda... Turn is definitely a call, the problem becomes is villain value betting any 9 on turn/river. You are definitely ahead of part of his CR range here so you have to call turn. River is gonna be tough... I think you see a worse nine here a lot, though against a villain this aggro I think you probably call a river shove if no diamond or one card str8 hits.

Hand 2: call and C/F any non 4, non 7 turn.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:12 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 is tough kinda... Turn is definitely a call, the problem becomes is villain value betting any 9 on turn/river. You are definitely ahead of part of his CR range here so you have to call turn. River is gonna be tough... I think you see a worse nine here a lot, though against a villain this aggro I think you probably call a river shove if no diamond or one card str8 hits.

Hand 2: call and C/F any non 4, non 7 turn.
Can I really just flat call this turn c/r? I almost feel like its push or fold. Or call with the intention of being all in on the river. If I call, and get pushed on the river: Its gonna be $55 to me and the pot will be $195 before my call. So I only need to win 22% of the time. Definitely pot committed if I get to the river.

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Old 03-01-2007, 07:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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first hand i agree with sauce, flop min c/r is very weak meaning midpair alot, i dont see him doing this with JJ 10-8 or 77. i think your beating a smaller 9, pushing the turn or calling a river push doesnt really matter to me its all getting all in there anyway in my opinion.

hand 2 call and check it down unless you hit a 7 or 4. the CO wont bet in a dry side and if he does your already waayyy behind
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