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Old 01-10-2008, 09:16 PM     Post subject: i made a video. UPDATE: now in wmv #1 (permalink)  
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it's 25NL. I posted the link in the begginers circle but for those who don't look there here ya go.

http://www.donkeytest.com/school.html


update: By the end of today (11/14) the videos will be in wmv format. The sound quality is much better, and it should work fine on windows media player or whatever accepts wmv.

Sorry about the technical problems before.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:54 PM #2 (permalink)  
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so it looks like video 1 doesn't stream video at the moment. But if you use internet explorer you can just dl the video so do that.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:49 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Great...I'm definately going to watch this tonight
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:59 AM #5 (permalink)  
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great!
i'm downloading!
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:36 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Max I really liked the vid - thanks for taking the time.

You hit some pretty nice flops there but regardless you hand analysis and explanations of your thought process were really clear. Some topics I found interesting throughout was your discussions around weak lead bets into the pre flop raiser, betting the river to fold out missed drawing hands (the 32 hand was a little cheeky ) and your identification of the actions of players in order to successfully exploit them. Great stuff.

My win rate at 25nl over about 35K hands is 8.3bb/100 and thats from playing pretty straight forward (low variance) poker without a lot of bluffing and without risking my stack in marginal spots. Although these things are strengths at 25nl I'm finding them to be somewhat of a problem when moving up to 50nl/100nl. I think I fold too much to aggressive players at these limits when 3-bet or having my c-bets check raised so if you make another video I would love you to try and explore these spots and some of the other adjustments required to successfully transition from micro to mid stakes.

Again, thanks for you time.
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Max I really liked the vid - thanks for taking the time.

You hit some pretty nice flops there but regardless you hand analysis and explanations of your thought process were really clear. Some topics I found interesting throughout was your discussions around weak lead bets into the pre flop raiser, betting the river to fold out missed drawing hands (the 32 hand was a little cheeky ) and your identification of the actions of players in order to successfully exploit them. Great stuff.

My win rate at 25nl over about 35K hands is 8.3bb/100 and thats from playing pretty straight forward (low variance) poker without a lot of bluffing and without risking my stack in marginal spots. Although these things are strengths at 25nl I'm finding them to be somewhat of a problem when moving up to 50nl/100nl. I think I fold too much to aggressive players at these limits when 3-bet or having my c-bets check raised so if you make another video I would love you to try and explore these spots and some of the other adjustments required to successfully transition from micro to mid stakes.

Again, thanks for you time.
thanks for your comments!

personally i really loved the 32 hand, it outlined a kind of advanced idea of recognizing a range and betting to only a part of it. i find that most players thought processes evolve like this:

1. He has a weak hand, i'm going to bluff.
2. His range contains many weak hands, if i make a nice sized bet he should fold.

and then the 32 thought process

3. His range contains weak made hands and draws, sometimes a few strong hands. i think it will be hard to get him to fold a made hand, but i'm going to make a small bet that will fold a certain part of his range, the draws, everytime.

it's also outlined in a hand earlier where i have AQ and flop trip aces, it's a similar thought process except for the sake of getting value:

- i think his range contains a boat, trip Aces, then a good 6, and pp's 77-TT. since i'm not gonna get much value out of a 6 or TT, i'm going to make a strong bet because i want to extract as much as possible from trip aces weak kicker. if he's dumb enough to call a check turn/bet river line he's probably calling a turn bet anyway.

Again, i'm betting here to extract money from a certain part of his range, not the entire thing.
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Also, about dealing with more aggressive players: i'm going to make a 100NL video soon and hopefully some of those situations you are talking about will come up.
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thanks for your comments!

personally i really loved the 32 hand, it outlined a kind of advanced idea of recognizing a range and betting to only a part of it. i find that most players thought processes evolve like this:

1. He has a weak hand, i'm going to bluff.
2. His range contains many weak hands, if i make a nice sized bet he should fold.

and then the 32 thought process

3. His range contains weak made hands and draws, sometimes a few strong hands. i think it will be hard to get him to fold a made hand, but i'm going to make a small bet that will fold a certain part of his range, the draws, everytime.

it's also outlined in a hand earlier where i have AQ and flop trip aces, it's a similar thought process except for the sake of getting value:

- i think his range contains a boat, trip Aces, then a good 6, and pp's 77-TT. since i'm not gonna get much value out of a 6 or TT, i'm going to make a strong bet because i want to extract as much as possible from trip aces weak kicker. if he's dumb enough to call a check turn/bet river line he's probably calling a turn bet anyway.

Again, i'm betting here to extract money from a certain part of his range, not the entire thing.
The post-oak/value bet bluff.

Not only it accomplishes what you just said, but may sometimes scare off bigger hands.

If you have been the aggressor, say on the nut flush draw, in position, and miss by the river, many times that 3rd barrel doesn't need to be that big. Against some opponents, what may seem like a value bet (even a smallish one) may be just as scary.

Great video man, loved it. Watched and then played some hands and i just saw myself thinking a lot better about the hands and plays, etc...

I'll keep it handy for further viewing. Keep them coming!
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:55 PM #10 (permalink)  
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bump, now in wmv.
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