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Old 12-21-2007, 06:26 PM     Post subject: I like my jacks #1 (permalink)  
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Opp is 15/13 over a zero sample. Wtf river?
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Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Absolute-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($20.40)
MP ($18.55)
Hero ($100)
Button ($148.50)
SB ($76.15)
BB ($58.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.44, Button calls $2.44, 2 folds, UTG folds.

Flop: ($6.13) T, 3, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($16.13) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button raises to $24, Hero calls $12.

River: ($64.13) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $117.06 (All-In), Hero calls ??.

Final Pot: $152.75
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:32 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think turn is almost a muck, river is definitely an insta-insta muck.

I reckon betting 21 or something on the river has its perks unless opponent is good.
 
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think turn is almost a muck, river is definitely an insta-insta muck.

I reckon betting 21 or something on the river has its perks unless opponent is good.
he is good, but he has to have quad 2s here? Is this hand different if i have AA?
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:43 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I think hes shoving to attempt to make it look like a busted flush draw here. If you have AA I don't think its any different. He has to have better than one pair, and since I don't see any likely two pair combinations he either has a boat or quads. 45s coudl also be a possibility if he has seen you double barrel a lot.
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I think turn is almost a muck, river is definitely an insta-insta muck.

I reckon betting 21 or something on the river has its perks unless opponent is good.
he is good, but he has to have quad 2s here? Is this hand different if i have AA?
I don't think it is. I reckon he has a boat or quads - he just sucks at pot control and panics when he realises that he should've got more in the pot earlier.
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:55 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think hes shoving to attempt to make it look like a busted flush draw here.
I agree with this, I also think he's shoving to look like he missed his spades and is buying it.

This deep I probably block the river for like $35ish and fold to a push.

As played, I fold. If I had AA I'd have to think harder, since this COULD be QQ/KK/AA against your Jacks right now. I'd imagine folding AA here is fine as well.
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Old 12-21-2007, 07:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I think turn is almost a muck, river is definitely an insta-insta muck.

I reckon betting 21 or something on the river has its perks unless opponent is good.
he is good, but he has to have quad 2s here? Is this hand different if i have AA?
what rules out 33/TT here?
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Old 12-21-2007, 07:37 PM #8 (permalink)  
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what rules out 33/TT here?
nothing. more likely, imo, although turn minraise is fishy. fold against an unknown tho.
 
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:59 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I would fold here instantly but hate it.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:07 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I don't think you're going to be wanting to buy in for 200bbs if these are the calls you like to make
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:05 AM #11 (permalink)  
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just looks like villain flopped a set.

how often do you see
call flop
raise turn
shove river

with a paired board and no draws at 50nl and its not a set?
I guess you beat A10s, but most of the time you are behind here
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Old 12-22-2007, 08:19 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I don't think you're going to be wanting to buy in for 200bbs if these are the calls you like to make
They arent, but im tempted to look at certain spots like this again when my opponent can have QQ/KK here and i have AA for example.
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