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Old 03-19-2007, 05:26 PM     Post subject: i have to stick it all in here, dont I? #1 (permalink)  
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 Sorry, converter isnt working right.

WheelerDlr is 39/17/1.8 over 41 hands, Whimsey1 is 41/7/0.6 over 60 hands, but i saw him reraise w/ A9o 2 hands prior.

i decide to see a flop in position even though it might not have been the most +EV play. I have to stick it all in on this flop, right? I feel like one of them might have AK, but w/ the FD i think its right to push.

Hand #40567827-12073 at Markham (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 19/Mar/07 12:54:39

TheDerivater is at seat 0 with $50.80.
WheelerDlr is at seat 1 with $20.20.
Whimsey1 is at seat 2 with $46.30.
quarVAX is at seat 3 with $50.35.
Baak_Drah_Ker is at seat 4 with $96.80 (sitting out).
DougTheHead is at seat 5 with $51.55.
The button is at seat 0.

WheelerDlr posts the small blind of $.25.
Whimsey1 posts the big blind of $.50.

TheDerivater: -- --
WheelerDlr: -- --
Whimsey1: -- --
quarVAX: -- --
DougTheHead: Ac Jc

Pre-flop:
quarVAX folds. DougTheHead raises to $1.75.
TheDerivater folds. WheelerDlr re-raises to $5.75.
Whimsey1 calls. DougTheHead calls.

Flop (board: Jd Kc 5c):
WheelerDlr goes all-in for $14.45. Whimsey1 calls.
DougTheHead goes all-in ???
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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push and be happy, you have a monster!!
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Old 03-19-2007, 06:38 PM #3 (permalink)  
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J is most likely good here, Ace unlikely due to a hand like AK being in the showdown here, but with the caller here youve got a ton of dead monies in the pot and its push time
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 ive been trying to use pokerstove a bit more recently so i can try to commit some of these hand equity vs. ranges to memory.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

3,375,414 games 0.125 secs 27,003,312 games/sec

Board: Jd Kc 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.952% 51.17% 02.78% 1727244 93857.67 { AcJc }
Hand 1: 23.024% 20.89% 02.13% 705127 72029.17 { JJ+, A8s+, KJs, A9o+, KJo }
Hand 2: 23.024% 20.89% 02.13% 705127 72029.17 { JJ+, A8s+, KJs, A9o+, KJo }


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903 games 0.031 secs 29,129 games/sec

Board: Jd Kc 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 76.486% 76.19% 00.30% 688 2.67 { AcJc }
Hand 1: 05.389% 05.09% 00.30% 46 2.67 { Ad9d }
Hand 2: 18.125% 17.83% 00.30% 161 2.67 { AsQc }
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just remember to never fold the nut flush draw on the flop especially if u have a pair or gutshot or something
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:12 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
ive been trying to use pokerstove a bit more recently so i can try to commit some of these hand equity vs. ranges to memory.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

3,375,414 games 0.125 secs 27,003,312 games/sec

Board: Jd Kc 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.952% 51.17% 02.78% 1727244 93857.67 { AcJc }
Hand 1: 23.024% 20.89% 02.13% 705127 72029.17 { JJ+, A8s+, KJs, A9o+, KJo }
Hand 2: 23.024% 20.89% 02.13% 705127 72029.17 { JJ+, A8s+, KJs, A9o+, KJo }


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903 games 0.031 secs 29,129 games/sec

Board: Jd Kc 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 76.486% 76.19% 00.30% 688 2.67 { AcJc }
Hand 1: 05.389% 05.09% 00.30% 46 2.67 { Ad9d }
Hand 2: 18.125% 17.83% 00.30% 161 2.67 { AsQc }
This is an easy shove, but I dont get what you did with the ranges above...get rid of the A9o and A8s I have no idea why u put those. Add some other 2pair possibilities , add 555, AK, and Q10. JJ+ is fine.
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 AK and AKs are in that range, and i left out QT because it was a 3-bet pot. I put A9o and A8s because the villains were both around 40% VP$IP. I should have added 55.
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 I get that, but I dont think they would go AI and call AI with A8 and A9...So the only Ax we should put is AK imo...

edit: why would they call a 3bet pot with A8 and not with QTs...
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:08 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 the $50nl game at UB is a huge donkfest if you have good table selection.

anyway, im not that good w/ pokerstove and i may have been a little results oriented w/ my ranges.
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Flop (board: Jd Kc 5c):

WheelerDlr goes all-in for $14.45. Whimsey1 calls.
DougTheHead goes all-in for $45.80. Whimsey1 goes
all-in for $40.55. DougTheHead is returned $5.25
(uncalled).

Turn (board: Jd Kc 5c 5h):


River (board: Jd Kc 5c 5h 7h):


Showdown:

DougTheHead shows Ac Jc.
DougTheHead has Ac Jc Jd 5c 5h: two pair, jacks and fives.
WheelerDlr shows Ad 9d.
WheelerDlr has Ad Jd Kc 5c 5h: a pair of fives.
Whimsey1 shows Qc As.
Whimsey1 has Qc As Kc 5c 5h: a pair of fives.
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:14 AM #11 (permalink)  
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What site is this??
shhhh, im not telling.

its UB. Since moving there i have doubled my BR in 10 days. Not like thats sustainable by any means. There isnt that big of a player base, and i sit w/ alot of regs each time i play, but there are so many donks that love to gambooooool.
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 lol, results oriented

man thats awful play
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