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I Like Pie
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08-12-2007, 10:16 PM
Post subject: I have overpairs and I don't know what to do
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 399
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HAND 1:
Villain 1 is 22/20/2.8 over 525 hands
Villain 2 is 28/19/1.8 over 175 hands
I'm pretty new to the table, haven't done much.
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GAME #625138397: Texas Hold'em NL $1.00/$2.00 Seat 1: McPinz ($197.00 in chips)
Seat 3: ferrari3200 ($79.25 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: fishyminge ($156.35 in chips)
Seat 6: TheOnlyKnut ($180.79 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($200.00 in chips)
Seat 10: WumpWump ($199.00 in chips)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Td Tc]
wifesab1tch: Raise $8.00
WumpWump: Call $8.00
McPinz: Call $8.00
ferrari3200: Call $8.00
fishyminge: Fold
TheOnlyKnut: Fold
*** FLOP *** [8s 7d 7h] (Pot = $32)
Hero: Bet $27.00, WumpWump: Call $27.00, McPinz: Call $27.00, 1 fold
*** TURN *** [5h] (Pot = $113)
Hero...
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HAND 2:
Villain is an unknown, new to table and no stats
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,742
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Hand 1: Betting sucks since you are building a big pot OOP vs. two opponents without a strong hand. So i check, with the intention of folding to any bet.
Hand 2: Since you didn't get raised on the turn i doubt villain is holding 9-x. Villain has either a full house or a busted flush draw, and given the fact that this river is a good card to bluff i would call anything but an overbet on this river.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,308
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check hand 1 on turn
i dont think the T is much of a scare card tbh, ugh i dunno if its a spot to block bet or not. shoving doesnt seem to get the hands you beat to call while betting small may get a missed draw with a pair to call.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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crazycrazy
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 240
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hand 1: i give up on turn,check and move from there,i prolly quit if i see to much actionf rom other 2 guys
hand 2: cehck or block.. i'm not sure what i do i here raises my block...but i prolly fold
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I Like Pie
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 399
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In hand 1 I ended up agree with your thinking, I did think a while but I did feel one of these two had a monster:
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*** TURN *** [5h]
Hero: Check, WumpWump: Check, McPinz: Bet $62.00, Hero: Fold, WumpWump: Raise $124.00, McPinz: Allin $100.00, WumpWump: Call $38.00
*** RIVER *** [9s]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $437.00 Rake $3.00
McPinz shows [Ts 7s]
WumpWump shows [8c 7c]
WumpWump: wins $437.00
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In hand 2, I went with betting out instead of checking:
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($280.05)
BB ($197.25)
Hero ($200)
MP ($349.34)
CO ($316.23)
Button ($418.33)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , Q .
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, 3 folds.
Flop: ($19) 9 , 9, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $17, CO calls $17.
Turn: ($53) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $35, CO calls $35.
River: ($123) T (2 players)
Hero bets $60, CO raises to $120, Hero...
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Bet size good on the river? And despite the odds I have here, is there anyway this is a bluff and I'm actually winning?
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Loser's Lounge
Posts: 2,323
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Originally Posted by I Like Pie
Bet size good on the river? And despite the odds I have here, is there anyway this is a bluff and I'm actually winning?
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I'd rather check the river. He can't be holding some mid-PP you'll be getting any more value from. The only reasonable straight draw hit. As nitty as it sounds TBH, the more I look at it I prefer a c/f. I don't see someone that will just flat chase a draw being the type to bluff it on the river of a scary board you've shown strength on to bluff it that often.
Anyway, whatever the case, as played don't call his raise.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Geanosssss
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 403
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I like the way you played both hands.
Its hard to fold to his min-raise even though it looks like your beat. But I'd say theres about a 30% chance your winning here and you only need to be winning 1/5 of the time to make the call profitable. So its a call IMO.
He may of filled up on the turn or river with 8-8 or 10-10, they're about the only hands I can put him on the way hes played it, unless he's the type of player to call pre-flop raises with SC's. He may of even flopped the boat with sixes and slow played it to death.
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