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NLHE lahooozaher
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09-04-2006, 04:35 AM
Post subject: I hate this situation so so much...
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 916
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Opp stats are only over 10 hands but from the 80/0/.3 stats I assume he is loose preflop but not sure about postflop...
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($109.35)
Hero ($221.40)
UTG ($106.22)
MP ($99.60)
CO ($205.53)
Button ($104.15)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 , 8. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($5) 7 , 8, T (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $15, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero???
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natdang
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 380
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I take a card for the redraw to a boat, but try not to go broke here, it IS an unraised pot
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thnwkd
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bahamas
Posts: 436
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fold
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Success is how high you bounce after hitting bottom.
IslandGrinder
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The Izebox
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: bronx new york
Posts: 255
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I would fold, the pot is tiny and you would have to look really hard to find a hand that you beat here. If he is playing over aggressively then his money is still on the table and im sure youll get a crack at it.
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Me? I always tell the truth.
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mcatdog
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: St. Louis
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I think either you're beat and have 4 outs or else he limped with AA/KK and thinks he has the nuts. I wouldn't lose any sleep over folding this.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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i call
and call reasonable turn and riverbets. My gut tells me this player has AA/KK a whole lot.
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gabe
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Moderator
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i call and lead the turn mostly
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Villain shows JT, QT, KT? I think you beat the hell out of an 80/3s range here.
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samsonite2100
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2005
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I like Gabe's line here--call and lead. With the amount of draws on the board, folding here seems super weak-tight.
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elipsesjeff
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
i call and lead the turn mostly
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Is this stop n go a frequent play with decent TPTK and low two pair hands? If you're raised on the turn again you let it go?
How much are you leading here, 1/2, 3/4, or full pot?
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The Izebox
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2006
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if you do lead the turn lead it 3/4 at least, if im villain a smaller lead might look like a draw to me (not saying that is a good play, but i see it frequently) and get reraised. I feel this is a situation where i might rereraise the flop to see where i stand and see what he does. I f he instacalls i might put him on an overpair and if he pushed you know youre beat.
However, if he calls only you might be in trouble, same if he calls your lead on the turn, as the pot will be sizable and you are in trouble. Without any information on the opponent (ten hands tell you nothing) i would fold and not worry about it. If he is a good player you made the right laydown. If he is overplaying his hands it will become obvious and should be easy to trap him later on.
In the end tho, if you stack off with bottom two with a connecting board youre going to be kicking yourself for not getting away from it with 4 dollars invested.
I either fold or rereraise the flop. Then again ive had a awful month so maybe i dont know what im talking about. I just dont like playing bottom two against an unknown oop when you know a big pot is coming.
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thnwkd
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Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by samsonite2100
I like Gabe's line here--call and lead. With the amount of draws on the board, folding here seems super weak-tight.
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this is exactly the reason i'm folding. Opp. Playing 80% percent of his hands could have almost anything here including the obvious made hand or a very strong draw in which case you don't really want to see any more cards. In addition this is a very passive player suddenly reraising... not good.
Of course this is all based on 10 hands, personally i would get out in such a marginal situation with no reads.
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IslandGrinder
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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An 80/3 isn't going to try and blow you off your hand when he flops hard.
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NLHE lahooozaher
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 916
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
An 80/3 isn't going to try and blow you off your hand when he flops hard.
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he's not 80/3, reread the op.
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nutsinho
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4-of-a-Kind
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just fold
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samsonite2100
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2005
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10 hands in PT is beyond meaningless. In a vacuum, this raise is so often a draw of some sort--I can see the argument for folding w/out more info, but my personal taste is calling this raise and making a boat on the turn.
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