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Old 12-27-2006, 06:15 PM     Post subject: I hate KQ #1 (permalink)  
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UTG is an idiot LAG. MP is a total calling station fish. Both are over 50% to the flop. I hate my position. Is this river a total crying call? I don't think MP is smart enough to value bluff.

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BB ($41.70)
UTG ($43.20)
MP ($41.20)
Button ($29.25)
Hero ($75.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K.
UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.50) Q, 8, T (3 players)
Hero bets $3.5, UTG calls $3.50, MP calls $3.50.

Turn: ($14) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11, MP calls $11.

River: ($47) A (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $15, Hero ???

Final Pot: $62
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:18 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Check that turn. The pot is getting way out of control when you have a very marginal hand. You're definately beaten on that river, so I fold even though it's so cheap. Also, against those stats, I tend to RR preflop.

EDIT: Your position does suck the testes, so I also like folding PF. When you're on the button, you should almost always RR here.
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'm not a huge fan of the PF call given your position, I feel a 3-bet or fold is better depending on the opponents' specific stats.

On the flop and turn, I would go for a check/call line instead.
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:33 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Check that turn. The pot is getting way out of control when you have a very marginal hand.
Here's my dilemma. Do I give up a free card to all those possible draws or do I make villians that are both 50% to the flop pay to draw?
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:46 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I don't call in the SB with KQo.
Checking the turn is good for pot control. The way you played it, even if the obvious draws don't hit you still wouldn't want to call an all-in on the river with a pair of queens and a good kicker.
Definately fold the river as someone was most likely drawing with Ax suited hearts.


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Old 12-27-2006, 09:58 PM #6 (permalink)  
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What's MP's preflop raise stats? If he doesn't raise much, you are beat. You are probably beat anyway but it's a tiny bet.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:29 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 CHECK THE TURN

maybe even c/c the flop.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:45 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 bet/fold river.
Turn bet is iffy
Folding preflop would have solved all those problems. I can see a reason to call with KQs not with KQo though.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:09 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Played fine. Now fold river.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:33 PM #10 (permalink)  
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A lot are saying fold pre-flop. Do you really fold pre-flop here? I am getting 3-1 on my money with the BB and UTG only having 1BB to call, which will give me 4-1. I can see playing the turn and possibly the flop more conservatively, but fold PF I can not.
I guess too many cards hurt me to make that turn bet eh? I probably am not 50% to win the hand on the turn?

R8ed, MP was 13% PFR at that point.
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