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JL
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01-13-2007, 12:50 AM
Post subject: I hate folding KK, but....
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PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($197.00)
SB ($273.20)
Hero ($196.20)
UTG ($47.20)
MP ($375.00)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K .
1 fold, MP raises to $9, Button calls $9, SB raises to $31, Hero calls $29, MP calls $22, Button folds.
Flop: ($102) 2 , 2 , 4 (3 players)
SB bets $50, Hero calls $50, MP folds.
Turn: ($202) Q (2 players)
SB bets $192.2 (All-In), Hero folds.
Final Pot: $394.20
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Fnord
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I would just stick it in on the flop.
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benny999
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unless SB has stats like 10/1, I'd either go all in pre flop or on the flop.
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IowaSkinsFan
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i fold the turn but yeah I also stick it in the flop.
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bdawg56kg
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4-bet pre or push flop. As played I'm not folding turn.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
As played I'm not folding turn.
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What are you beating on the turn? JJ isn't going to push into the queen. AK would slow down. I think the best you can hope for is a split.
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IowaSkinsFan
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the turn actually looks a lot like a flush draw AKs
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mcatdog
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Unless we're a lot deeper than 100 BB, I almost always just open-shove pre-flop here. That seems like the best way to disguise the strength of your hand.
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griffey24
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
As played I'm not folding turn.
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What are you beating on the turn? JJ isn't going to push into the queen. AK would slow down. I think the best you can hope for is a split. |
Is this never AQ here? I can certainly see AQ re-raising preflop, and firing a continuation bet on the flop, before hitting their Q on the turn. Though, it would certainly take an aggressive player to fire AQ into two players that calld a re-raise PF.
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gabe
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i push pre, fail that push flop. worst hands call in both spots.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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You should've 4-bet preflop
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
As played I'm not folding turn.
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JJ isn't going to push into the queen. AK would slow down. . |
I disagree with both of those statements. The Q falling doesn't change anything if he has JJ; if he was ahead he's still ahead and if he was behind he remains behind. AK would definitely be correct to bluff all in here as you appear to most likely have TT or JJ and the high card combined with further aggression could easily scare you.
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dsaxton
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I don't see how you can fold this turn after calling off almost half your stack. If he has a pocket pair below queens, the queen is essentially a blank for him, and an aggressive, somewhat donkish player might make this bet on the turn with tens or jacks. You might be worried about Q-Q, but I think the turn bet size effectively rules out this holding. You are still worried about only one hand, so I don't think you can fold this unless you know for a fact that the small blind is very conservative.
You did a good job disguising your hand preflop, now I would just raise the flop to $150 and call a push.
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