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Old 03-17-2008, 10:23 AM     Post subject: I got there, and now I want to fold. (50nl) #1 (permalink)  
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 $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($48.50)
UTG 1 ($83.68)
Hero ($75.73)
BTN ($52.48)
SB ($48.25)
BB ($125.18)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.5

Flop: ($4.25, 2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $3.5, BB raises to $6.5, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($17.25, 2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.5

River: ($18.25, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $116.18, $66.73 to Hero ($66.73)?

His line... min-bet flop, min-3-bet, min-bet turn, big overbet push river. Is this ever a bluff? What could he be shoving for value that we beat?

By the way, his stats are 79/1.1/1.5.
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:32 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i feel sick about giving it up on the flop to his minib/mini3bet but i think u only get yourself into trouble by doing this. hes reppin pretty much the absolute nuts, if not TT, i mean TQ or QQ. yeah, it sucks, but u really arent giving up much by just folding to his crap and moving on to the next hand ... its not like hes smart enough to realize he can use this information to exploit u and make u fold by taking this line as a bluff in the future.

obv fold river, but i probly give it up on flop.
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:38 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 just call flop mindonk, what do you think this raise accomplishes? hes never going to fold a Q or T, you have odds to draw vs lower pairs, and you have position. as played fold to the min3bet. and fold river for sure
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:26 PM #4 (permalink)  
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just call flop mindonk, what do you think this raise accomplishes?
The mindonk at 25 and 50NL is very often a blocking bet with absolutely nothing or a weak draw, both of which AK is ahead of. It's pretty typical to just ignore it and make a standard c-bet, and you get a surprisingly large volume of folds from the mindonkers. If anything raising that bet is +EV because you were likely going to c-bet anyway, and now he's graciously tipped you a big blind for your troubles. But I do agree that folding to the min-3-bet is the right choice. That's a warning sign. If you flat that, it's with the expectation that any card that makes the flush or the straight (both of which he could be drawing to) will force you to fold. In other words, there may not be much point to it - you might as well let him have this one and wait for the next time to pop him. If you do call it's a very sketchy situation in terms of equity. You're a little bit ahead or about even a lot, but sometimes you're way behind.
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