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Old 02-15-2009, 11:33 PM     Post subject: I get c/r a couple of times 400nl #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is unknown i've never seen him before. I searched him and he's playing 5 tables of 2/4 and 1 of 3/6. Turn is for value cause he doesn't check back any hands that beat me on that turn imo.

River's a fold? His timing wasn't insta but pretty quick on the river.

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saw flop

UTG ($573.40)
MP ($317)
CO ($80)
Hero (Button) ($400)
SB ($277)
BB ($601.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, A
3 folds, Hero raises $12, SB calls $10, BB calls $8

Flop: ($36) 10, A, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $24, 1 fold, BB raises $76, Hero calls $52

Turn: ($188) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $125, BB calls $125

River: ($438) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $188, Hero?

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Villain is 25/19/3.5 over a couple hundred hands. I don't have any reads on him. His betsizing is pretty bad since he can't shove river which makes me unsure of his bluff % since thats all I beat.

Fold with no history?

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saw flop

Button ($449.20)
SB ($786.90)
BB ($459)
UTG ($160)
MP ($143.80)
Hero (CO) ($416.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
2 folds, Hero raises $12, 2 folds, BB calls $8

Flop: ($26) 7, 2, 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises $48, Hero calls $32

Turn: ($122) Q (2 players)
BB bets $76, Hero calls $76

River: ($274) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $144, Hero?



 
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:56 AM #2 (permalink)  
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1) A7, 66, an unlikely AT or TT, 2 clubs, and... I think we're beat.

2) Without history, it's hard to put him on c/ring flop and then 2nd and 3rd barreling. We beat weird stuff like As7s and 9s8s, but they'd have to be heavily discounted in a range. Me likey the fold.
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1 snap fold obviously
2 he can be checkraising Qx on the flop as a bluff and then betting for value now, as well as bluffing, please don't fold this ever
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:28 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 - I think folding the flop is even fine, though I do find myself peeling to the turn often.

hand 2 - The money is getting in somehow. I 3bet flop sometimes, or shove turn sometimes.. and as played I call river.
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 1. Fold flop
2. I dont tend to fold here even though this is a set a lot, maybe I should?
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just started playing again......

1) fold quickly (the flop)......if you don't do that c/f turn.
2) *I* probably fold because I'm a pussy, but a call isn't bad. If I call I expect to be beat here a lot but whatever.


 
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:21 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 What do you guys make of his bet sizing in 2? Whats the general consensus of when somebody plans the hand poorly and gets to the river without being able to shove under pot more likely bluffing, less likely etc..



 
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:01 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 1. does he look like a man who is beaten by a pair of aces?
2. id look this up and make a note
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 id fold flop in 1, and call down in 2

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