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Lukie
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11-11-2006, 10:01 AM
Post subject: I fold decent hands too...
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Ew, this hand sucks.
Villain is jessicafk, a real nit that I havn't seen in a while. I have her at 5/5 over 40 hands on my HUD that I recently started using again, but more importantly, I remember her as a huge nit several months ago.
I really think she has KK/JJ here, MAYBE QTs if she was REALLY getting out of line preflop, lol. I just can't see KJ, AA, AK, or any similar hand playing this way. My turn c/r isn't exactly weak. The fact that it's a button game though may or may not change things, I don't really know.
I usually lead this turn here, but sometimes I think you have to check as well. Anyway, comments on any street welcome.
She covers by almost 200.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($408)
MP ($179.65)
Button ($577.50)
Hero ($384)
BB ($455.70)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 , 9 .
2 folds, Button raises to $16, Hero calls $14, 1 fold.
Flop: ($36) K , J , 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($36) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $24, Hero raises to $105, Button raises to $561.5, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $702.50
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mrhappy333
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11-11-2006, 12:24 PM
Post subject: Re: I fold decent hands too...
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Ew, this hand sucks.
Villain is jessicafk, a real nit that I havn't seen in a while. I have her at 5/5 over 40 hands on my HUD that I recently started using again, but more importantly, I remember her as a huge nit several months ago.
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Is being a nit a bad thing or she just plays super tight?
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Originally Posted by Lukie
I really think she has KK/JJ here, MAYBE QTs if she was REALLY getting out of line preflop, lol. I just can't see KJ, AA, AK, or any similar hand playing this way. My turn c/r isn't exactly weak. The fact that it's a button game though may or may not change things, I don't really know.
I usually lead this turn here, but sometimes I think you have to check as well. Anyway, comments on any street welcome.
She covers by almost 200.
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Why would this matter, that she covers you by $200?
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gabe
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this is not the type of board you want to check the set on the turn
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IowaSkinsFan
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AA I think is possible. AK though yeah I have a hard time seeing that. Idk I probably fold to.
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benny999
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I don't get checking the turn either.
Otherwise, from her perspective, you checked twice and she underrepped her hand, so maybe ur making a move on her nittiness.
But taking into account how nitty u described, even in this spot it's probably rare she's going all in with less than the 3rd nuts. Definitely not an easy fold though...
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Lukie
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11-11-2006, 10:54 PM
Post subject: Re: I fold decent hands too...
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Is being a nit a bad thing or she just plays super tight?
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I just pointed it out because I felt it was very relevant to the hand. It's probably a bad thing against opponents with a clue.
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Why would this matter, that she covers you by $200?
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Take a look at the turn action. It's not an effective raise to $561.50. It's an effective raise to significantly less then that. This should and does effect decision making (favors a call, despite the fact that I folded).
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by gabe
this is not the type of board you want to check the set on the turn
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I understand the reasoning, but what if villain will bet here 100% of the time when checked to? If this is the case (or close to it-- which applies to many players here), it can't possibly be a big mistake.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
AA I think is possible. AK though yeah I have a hard time seeing that. Idk I probably fold to.
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come on... does AA ever check the flop then push over a huge turn c/r on a nasty turn card? I've never seen it.
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nutsinho
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
AA I think is possible. AK though yeah I have a hard time seeing that. Idk I probably fold to.
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come on... does AA ever check the flop then push over a huge turn c/r on a nasty turn card? I've never seen it. |
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mrhappy333
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I think you have her beat here
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3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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bdawg56kg
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I hate the turn c/r here. Lead turn, call a raise and re-eval on river. As played, I dunno, your line looks so weird that I'd probably convince myself to call.
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