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Irisheyes
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08-07-2008, 08:45 AM
Post subject: I don't check/raise the turn enough
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5/10 NL, $1050 stacks.
2 folds, we open 7 8 to $35 from the CO, Button calls, blinds fold.
Flop 1 ($70): K 54
Flop 2 ($70): K54
We bet $55, he calls
Turn for both flops ($180): 2
check, he bets $120, we raise to $330....
The button is a good TAG regular in our games, has the usual bag of tricks.
Who believes he is bet/folding more than 45% of his range on either or both of these boards?
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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could you give more detailed information about our opponent? i'm wondering:
-will he bet hands like 88 on the turn when checked to?
-does he float a lot of cbets?
-do we have a history of frequently c/r the turn?
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Originally Posted by Carroters
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noble007
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Maybe flop 2,
I dont know though the thing is that K high 2 low card flop is by far the most profitable flop to cbet under the sun, so when even tricky players dont fold Im very weary of making any moves without more outs.
I would rather cbet and cr the turn on a ton of different textures as a bluff b4 this one.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Originally Posted by noble007
Maybe flop 2,
I dont know though the thing is that K high 2 low card flop is by far the most profitable flop to cbet under the sun, so when even tricky players dont fold Im very weary of making any moves without more outs.
I would rather cbet and cr the turn on a ton of different textures as a bluff b4 this one.
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good players know that other good players know this, and that's why they are going to float more hands in that spot since Hero is going to have air with a relatively high frequency.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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Irisheyes
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Vi:
We have no history of c/r-ing the turn light but other than that we have no specific reads. What do you thin? Do most players bet 88 on the turn? Do they b/f KT? 67?
One thing I will say is that he knows that we are cbetting thins flop with a high frequency.
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noble007
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Vi: yeah, true
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Vi:
We have no history of c/r-ing the turn light but other than that we have no specific reads. What do you thin? Do most players bet 88 on the turn? Do they b/f KT? 67?
One thing I will say is that he knows that we are cbetting thins flop with a high frequency.
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i'd bet a hand like 88/KT on the turn if i had an easy decision if my opponent raised, or i didn't expect him to bluff an exploitable amount on the river if i checked behind. i'd also bet if i expected my opponent to mostly fold/call, since i figure to be slightly ahead of his range and this way i can charge his drawing hands.
i'd bet a hand like 67 on the turn if i expected my opponent to mostly fold
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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