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Old 10-12-2007, 07:57 PM     Post subject: I can't fold a boat #1 (permalink)  
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With all the broadways, can I figure a river fold here? Villain is 64/14/4 over 30+ hands FWIW.
I thought he would bet this flop if checked to 100% of the time. I guessed wrong and missed my CR.
Then I lead turn and CR'd river due to his interest in pot/his aggro image. I thought he had a Q, but figured he'd call me down with any Q. After his river 3bet I was hoping against AQ (somewhat likely) and QJ (likely). Can I consider a fold or must I call this Loose fish?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($99.80)
SB ($101.95)
BB ($79.75)
UTG ($171.85)
Hero ($99.20)
CO ($136.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6, 6.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 6, A, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($9.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button calls $7.

River: ($23.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9, Hero raises to $27, Button raises to $88.8, Hero calls $61.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $199.91

P.S. I hate to see this much money go in on the river without the nuts.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Did you read my description? I was 100% sure he would bet this flop. Obviously my CR didn't work out. Oooops.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:15 PM #4 (permalink)  
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bet flop

river is bad spot to c/r because he doesnt have a flush here as often as u tihnk because of flop action, hes more likely going to call u down with something
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Here's my thought process: On the turn I thought he had a Q or Ax, possibly a spade draw. I would expect him to bet good holdings, draws and air on the flop. I expect him to check behind flop w/ medium holdings to see showdown. By the river I wanted a Q to call here or an Ax hero call. I wasn't really putting him on a flush much. That said is river a fold to his 3bet push.

Gabe, given my F'd up line what do you do on the river to salvage some value from your boat? Bet/call?

I see why I should have played flop/turn differently.
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:13 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Quit going for so many check raises and just bet. Also, i don't know how you can be 100 percent certain that a 64/14 will bet when checked too? It seems highly likely they will call a bet however so why not bet?

Bet flop, Bet turn, Bet river. As played, call river.
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