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donkbee
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04-28-2010, 09:46 PM
Post subject: I call overbet with turned 2 pair $50NL
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WELP
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He had most of his chips when I got to the table, so I unfortunately had no relevent reads. Running 60/9 over 50 hands though.
I'm not sure why I didn't cbet the flop. As played, I thought it was strange he overbet the turn and I figured he had something like top pair and didn't want to get drawn out. Call or raise the river?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (Button) ($78.10)
SB ($53.70)
BB ($50)
UTG ($120.85)
MP ($60.90)
CO ($50)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 9
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero bets $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50
Flop: ($4.75) Q , 7, 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($4.75) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50
River: ($15.75) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $16.50, Hero?
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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pocketfours
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Call imo.
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caddie444
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C-bet flop if you're iso'ing this guy. As played I'd raise turn but calling isn't bad. As played on riv don't fold don't raise.
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OhioRounder
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I honestly can't ever find a fold here against this dude. Calling down seems fine.
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pocketfours
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioRounder
I honestly can't ever find a fold here against this dude. Calling down seems fine.
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We aren't even considering folding. OP is asking whether she should raise.
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Fnord
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Quote:
Originally Posted by courtiebee
He had most of his chips when I got to the table, so I unfortunately had no relevent reads. Running 60/9 over 50 hands though.
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I raise the turn and can't get it in fast enough. Doubly so if you've started picking on him.
Kinda gamb00ly against his range, but meh. I want to gamble with 60/9 guys all night.
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rpm
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vs this guy i'm happy to raise/call the turn, or get the rest in on the river if he bet/calls turn. only one combo each of 77/99 and 3 combos of 44. he may also have Q9/7/maybe 4 a bit but meh he can have Qx or a FD alot and isnt folding. i would include T8 and 65 as well. i like the flop check though, what makes you lean toward cbetting here, caddie?
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shakesss
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yeah i like the check behind on the flop as well.
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Ravageur
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Hmm..few things.
Not sure I like punishing this pf even if he sucks.
Flop seems fine to c-bet, and as played why aren't we raising the turn? We're getting called by top pair as well as punishing draws. We lose to pretty much nothing so no reason to try to pot control. After we just call turn river is just a call since he's pretty polarized now.
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Family Cruise IMO
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griffey24
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Migh not isolate fish with this hand, until I get reads on how he plays.
I'd cbet flop though, he's c/c worse pairs, AJ/AT, draws etc.
Turn is weird, I'd raise a whale though for sure. He probably has like KK/AA or some nonsense.
River.. two overbets in a row... I'd prob just call now. But raise turn imo.
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donkbee
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thanks for the great feedback everyone, it helped a lot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Renton
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prob fold pre, raise turn, call river.
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Fnord
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Quote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
Migh not isolate fish with this hand, until I get reads on how he plays.
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I think it depends on what the other guys at the table are letting you get away with. If the blinds aren't re-raising often enough and the fish doesn't think we're fun yet, then it's time to get the party started...
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Dragon Slayer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
I think it depends on what the other guys at the table are letting you get away with. If the blinds aren't re-raising often enough and the fish doesn't think we're fun yet, then it's time to get the party started...
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+1 Id prefer it to be 79s though not 79o
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Numbr2intheWorld
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fold pre unless you have a read that he's folding to every cbet,
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Poker Guru
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Fold preflop. River is an easy call. Turn raise is an option too.
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leftygrove
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I think you're too deep for a river raise. I wouldn't be comfortable raising for stacks, and raise/folding would tilt me. He still has sets and better two pairs than you in his super wide range, maybe even 56.
100 bb's deep I think a shove is fine.
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